Please recommend a "hip" non traditional black or brown dress shoe for under $800
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Those both look almost like relatively traditional styles except with kinda cheap looking antiquing and with a horribly tacky logo stamped into them. If you want something with a modern shape but that also looks expensive and high quality, why not try some from a real shoe maker like, for example, Gaziano & Girling:
Wow the level of scrutiny you exhibited is a clear indicator that you know exactly what the hell you are talking about, however, the shoes recommended still seem a bit traditional. For example, these aren't the type of shoes i would wear to a nightclub. The guccis are
Or for around $600 a Drummond from Crockett and Jones. Higher construction quality than the Guccis.
For only a smidge more Alfred Sargent makes a 3 eyelet derby called the Pimlico - the Exclusive grade is a step up from Crockett and Jones.
And then there are the Vass Austerity Brogues on the U Last - classic, stylish and the best possible construction all for around $700.
And since you just mentioned nightclubs - I'd go as cheap as Septieme Largeur - around $400 with patinas. Clubbing is very hard on shoes - I'd go cheap and disposable.
Whatever you do - don't buy the Gucci - they simply are not well made for the price.
I've been looking for some brown shoes myself. I am mainly looking for brown wingtips....If you looking for Gucci shoes I personally have a pair of these
They go for about $600.If you want to go even cheaper shoes go with some Allen Edmonds.They are US made shoes but are still nice(I am even debating on getting a pair myself,would rather wait for them to be on sale tho)They go for $335 retail