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Somewhat outdated because of the nature of the criteria, and the sample size is way too small, but I thought this was also interesting.

Quarterbacks in the NFL Hall of Fame (modern era, by current conference):

SEC
Bart Starr - Alabama
Joe Namath - Alabame
George Blanda - Kentucky
Fran Tarkenton - Georgia
Y.A. Tittle - LSU

Big Ten
Len Dawson - Purdue
Bob Griese - Purdue
Otto Graham - Northwestern

ACC
Sonny Jurgensen - Duke
Jim Kelly - Miami

Big East
Johnny Unitas - Louisville
Dan Marino - Pitt

Pac 12
Dan Fouts - Oregon
Norm Van Brocklin - Oregon
John Elway - Stanford
Bob Waterfield - UCLA
Troy Aikman - UCLA
Warren Moon - Washington

Big 12
Bobby Layne - Texas

Small Conference
Terry Bradshaw - La Tech

Independents
Steve Young - BYU
Joe Montana - Notre Dame
Roger Staubach - Navy
post #452 of 861
So the B1G 1X will get Maryland in 2014.

http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/sports/maryland-to-announce-move-to-big-ten/nS9mY/

Not sure how they can afford the $50 million exit fee but whatever.

Will this trigger a new round of realignment? The ACC is already basketball-strong and Maryland hasn't been at the top of its form lately, no impact whatsoever in football (performance-wise). Might just be the tail end of all the craziness from before.
post #453 of 861
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Interesting stuff, FLMM. Looking at the schools some of those guys attended really shows how much things have changed. I mean, imagine a HOF-worthy QB coming out of Kentucky nowadays.
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So the B1G 1X will get Maryland in 2014.
http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/sports/maryland-to-announce-move-to-big-ten/nS9mY/
Not sure how they can afford the $50 million exit fee but whatever.
Will this trigger a new round of realignment? The ACC is already basketball-strong and Maryland hasn't been at the top of its form lately, no impact whatsoever in football (performance-wise). Might just be the tail end of all the craziness from before.

I think it's the tail end, not a new round, but I'm still holding out hope that something will happen to push FSU and Clemson to the SEC.
post #454 of 861
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So the B1G 1X will get Maryland in 2014.
http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/sports/maryland-to-announce-move-to-big-ten/nS9mY/.

I wish they'd also take Boston College and Syracuse on their way out.
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Which QBs from the NFL of recent years will be HoFers?

Locks -Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Kurt Warner

Probably: Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger

Maybes: Drew Brees, Donovan McNabb
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I wish they'd also take Boston College and Syracuse on their way out.

I'm still hoping FSU and Clemson come to the Big Twilve.
post #457 of 861
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Which QBs from the NFL of recent years will be HoFers?
Locks -Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Kurt Warner
Probably: Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger
Maybes: Drew Brees, Donovan McNabb

I'd swap Brees and E. Manning, and I think McNabb is the biggest "maybe" by far.
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I'm still hoping FSU and Clemson come to the Big Twilve.

No way! I called them first!
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I'd swap Brees and E. Manning, and I think McNabb is the biggest "maybe" by far.
No way! I called them first!

Well - since living members get a vote (I think), Eli probably gets help from Dad and Bro when his time comes. But I'd agree with that assessment. I might slide Big Ben to the maybes as well.
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post

Which QBs from the NFL of recent years will be HoFers?

My opinion:

Locks -Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Drew Brees
Probably: Eli Manning, Kurt Warner,
Maybes: Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Donovan McNabb

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I'm still hoping FSU and Clemson come to the Big Twilve.

Anyone but the ACC. We've only had two apologies for officiating this year, but enough's enough. This conference is a fucking joke in football and the officiating makes tight games unfair to either team. Can't wait till Notre Dame's fanbase gets in on the fun.
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I'd swap Brees and E. Manning, and I think McNabb is the biggest "maybe" by far.
No way! I called them first!

I thought the SEC was going to eventually make a play on Virginia Tech and NC State? Based on the rumors I hear, that seemed like the logical conclusion from both sides. It expands the SEC footprint into two new states with significant recruiting pools, and would gain support from Florida and South Carolina (which Clemson and Florida State are rumored to not be getting).
post #461 of 861
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

My opinion:
Locks -Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Drew Brees
Probably: Eli Manning, Kurt Warner,
Maybes: Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Donovan McNabb

I agree with this. My initial thought that categorizing McNabb as a "maybe" was awfully generous considering his lack of a ring. Then I looked up his career statistics and compared them to the career statistics of first-ballot HOFer Jim Kelly, another QB who never won the Super Bowl. McNabb's numbers are actually slightly better. (He played two more seasons.) Now you can argue that McNabb played in a more pass-happy era and that Kelly was more instrumental to his team's success, but at the very least, McNabb is in the HOF conversation.
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I agree with this. My initial thought that categorizing McNabb as a "maybe" was awfully generous considering his lack of a ring. Then I looked up his career statistics and compared them to the career statistics of first-ballot HOFer Jim Kelly, another QB who never won the Super Bowl. McNabb's numbers are actually slightly better. (He played two more seasons.) Now you can argue that McNabb played in a more pass-happy era and that Kelly was more instrumental to his team's success, but at the very least, McNabb is in the HOF conversation.

If you have to think about it--they aren't HOF-worthy. Just MO.
post #463 of 861
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If you have to think about it--they aren't HOF-worthy. Just MO.

Come on - you saying Marino is not HOF worthy because of no ring? Because I would challenge that, and probably Kelly too.
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Come on - you saying Marino is not HOF worthy because of no ring? Because I would challenge that, and probably Kelly too.

Not what I'm saying.... Guys either are or aren't HOFers. I don't think how the team performs is indicative of how an individual player played (its a controversial stance I know, and some dudes won't get it but I'm cool with that). Just if you say about someone "I don't know if he's a hall of famer..." then he's not. It should be incredibly tough to get into the HOF, and the second you have a doubt I think that shows they shouldn't get in.

Can't articulate it better atm but basically if you have to perform any sort of gymnastics when evaluating performance they aren't worthy.
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If you have to think about it--they aren't HOF-worthy. Just MO.
Anyone who didn't get in on the first ballot is someone the voters had to think about. Do you want to limit the HOF in that way?
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