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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

What distinguishes the "knockout game" from garden-variety assault? Is there a tote board somewhere online?
From what kids who participate are saying, and telling people they know who do not particpate, the purpose of the game is to see if you can make someone unconcious with one punch. The victim is random (but nearly always white or not black, though there have been a handful of black victims, all women that I know of). There is no grudge. No robbery. You strike hard and run. Often, one of your gang films. Some of the idiots post the vid on YouTube.

Then there is the related, but slightly different game of "Polar Bear Hunting." In this case the victim is always white. There does not appear to be an explicit one-punch-drop rule but that is to be commended if it happens.

Really, I am not accusing you of this, but one could follow the drift of your question as being "If there is no NBA-like authority keeping score, how can it be a game?" That is not a serious point. Kids who participate and the people in these neigborhoods say there IS a game and that it's understood by the perps as a game. That's all that matters.
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Booth, you heard it here (though not here first, because Slate, the NYT and others have been at pains to deny it earlier). There is no knockout game. That fist you felt at the base of your neck was grape-fruit hail. The fact that an iPhone vid of the attack was later posted on YouTube, well, don't let that sway you.

And, certainly, it's never happened in DC. Or at least, not recently, and not five years ago. Perhaps in between, but what would that prove?

 

Phoebe Connolly was attacked on 11/15/2013 in Columbia Heights.  It seems another woman was attacked the day also in Columbia Heights.  Matt Yglesias was attacked 2.5 years ago off of North Capitol St. & New York Avenue which is right across from a large housing project (I think that area is called Old City).  Where is the pattern Columbo?  And I still do not see how this has in your mind has become a "5 year trend" when according to your own posts, there were no records of this happening 5 years ago.  Hell as of 11/13/2013 the Yglesias attack was the only one in DC.

 

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 The victim is random (but nearly always white or not black, though there have been a handful of black victims, all women that I know of).

 

So which is it?  You  are hurting your own argument every time you type a sentence

post #4954 of 7330
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Phoebe Connolly was attacked on 11/15/2013 in Columbia Heights.  It seems another woman was attacked the day also in Columbia Heights.  Matt Yglesias was attacked 2.5 years ago off of North Capitol St. & New York Avenue which is right across from a large housing project (I think that area is called Old City).
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Never happened in DC. Sorry.

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There is no pattern, nothing to see here, the youtube vids never happened (except they did), the confessions of perps and the explanations from guys in the 'hood never happened (except they did), the victims are not overwhelmingly white and the perps 100% black (except they are). Nothing to see here, if you recognize a pattern--hell, if you simply accept and repeat the perps' own statements--then you are a bad person.
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So which is it?  You  are hurting your own argument every time you type a sentence
What? That's a statement of fact. The victims have been overwhelmingly, but not quite universally, white. So what? Grapsing at straws.

Look, you said something false and stupid out of a knee-jerk reaction. You have been decisively refuted. Act like a man and admit it or STFU.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

What distinguishes the "knockout game" from garden-variety assault? Is there a tote board somewhere online?

Really, I am not accusing you of this, but one could follow the drift of your question as being "If there is no NBA-like authority keeping score, how can it be a game?" That is not a serious point. Kids who participate and the people in these neigborhoods say there IS a game and that it's understood by the perps as a game. That's all that matters.

It wasn't really a serious question, but, no, I do not think a game requires central planning. What am I, a communist? smile.gif

More seriously, it's possible to accept that this is happening without blowing it out of proportion and calling it a trend. Certainly all we have at this point are anecdata, and the reported cases are statistically irrelevant with little reflection of any broader trend.

In any case, on behalf of sane liberals everywhere: Crimes should be prosecuted. Including those committed by people of color, irrespective of the color of the victims.
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I've been out of the loop on these attacks. Assuming they do follow a pattern, what's the frequency compared to muggings, rapes, and other "random" violent assaults (i.e. where there isn't a preexisting relationship between the perp and victim)?
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3 assaults spread out over 2.5 years in 2 different neighbourhoods (btw: none of the assaults happened in Adams Morgan, the other neighbourhood you cited) but it is my supposed liberal bias and blind ignorance that prevents me from seeing a pattern.  Whatever you say hayseed

 

"Oooh that DC is a really scary place!  And it must be true be cause I read it on the interwebz!!"  

post #4959 of 7330
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Keep digging.

There is no spoon.
post #4960 of 7330
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What distinguishes the "knockout game" from garden-variety assault? Is there a tote board somewhere online?

The oppressed youth tend to shout "world star" after completing the former.
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Keep digging.

There is no spoon.


You keep changing your story.  First you stated that it has been an issue in DC for at least 5 years

 

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A decade, hmmm, I first heard of it maybe 5 years ago. Seemed then to be big in the "gentrifying" borderline areas of DC and Philly. NYC attacks only started to come to my attention this year.

 

 

I stated it was not an issue in DC.  Then you stated

 

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Oh, bullshit. Just because you are ignorant doesn't mean it's never happened. Read up a little on Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights.

 

 

At that point I was unaware that 2 assaults happened in Columbia Heights 2 weeks ago so as far as I knew there was only the single attack on Matt Yglesias that was in neither Columbia Heights nor Adams Morgan waaaaaaaaaaaay back in 2011.  How could you have heard about this trend/phenomenon 5 years ago in these areas if the first attack was reported in 2011 in an entirely different part of the city? 

 

You are somehow attempting to make a definitive statement based on 3 separate assaults, 1 of which was in 2011 and the other 2 in an entirely different neighbourhoods 2.5 years later and claim they form a pattern of violence against whites.  Oh and you claimed that these assaults targeted whites only but then admitted in the same sentence that blacks had also had been attacked. 

 

The math doesn't add up and neither does the geography.  Your original statement was a lie and all the bluster you can muster (hey that rhymes!) won't change that one simple fact. About the only thing that you have proved is that every blue moon someone in DC gets assaulted by others.  Is there any wonder why I am laughing at you?

 

 

Now can we get back to complaining about NYC?

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I enjoyed this thread much more when the discussion focused on shitty Ramen.
post #4964 of 7330
Just reading through a CNN piece on the engineer driving the MTA train. Do not be surprised if he's characterized as some sort of victim.
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"Falling asleep at the controls of a locomotive is a horrible evil. You're not supposed to do that. He really doesn't want to come out and say, 'I fell asleep.' It's emotionally embarrassing. It's not just a rules violation. There's a psychological component. If you come out and say, 'I fell asleep,' it's just purely beyond embarrassing. It's a violation of the sacred understanding of what a train crew should do."

I predict we should not judge this man.
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I enjoyed this thread much more when the discussion focused on shitty Ramen.

the focus was on excellent ramen at shitty prices.
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