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Does vest have to match suit colour?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Hey guys I was wondering, since my uni ball is coming up...i need some help/suggestions..

I recent bought a charcoal colour vest......and my suit is solid black.....does it match??
Does a vest always need to suit the colour of the suit ?

post #2 of 20
Not just the colour, but the fabric should always match, this is the 'rule' for suiting.

However, if this is in a causal context, one can mix things up, in different colour base and texture.
post #3 of 20
A formal three-piece suit always have the same fabric, pattern, and color. But like add911_11, in casual settings, mixing things up is good. But don't too overboard with it. It can become irritating to the eyes.
post #4 of 20
I would not wear a charcoal vest with a black suit.
post #5 of 20
I would not even wear a black suit.
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by blackmambaz View Post

Does a vest always need to suit the colour of the suit ?

Morning dress will often pair a dark coat with a lighter vest. Here's a modern take on it:



http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Morning_Dress.htm

Though charcoal would be too dark for morning dress, it appears.
post #7 of 20
OP might not understand the combination of a morning dress.
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 

thanks for the reply guys....really learn alot of new stuff....

 

i guess i have to get a black vest then

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by blackmambaz View Post

i guess i have to get a black vest then

That's a big expanse of black. I personally wouldn't wear the black suit to begin with, but since that's what you have, adding to the black even more with a vest may not be the best course of action. You will become a dark hole in the room. Do you feel a specific need for the vest?
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by blackmambaz View Post

thanks for the reply guys....really learn alot of new stuff....

i guess i have to get a black vest then

No. Suit material and color have to match exactly. You can't just get a matching vest. Just wear it as a 2-piece as was intended.
post #11 of 20
To expand on KObalto's post, very few blacks are the same black. If you get a vest after the fact, it will be a slightly different color black and the material will likely have a different texture and level of shine.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by wumingde View Post

I would not even wear a black suit.

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post #13 of 20

If you have a modern RTW suit that is cut as a two-piece, you probably shouldn't try to wear a waistcoat with it, and you certainly shouldn't try to find something to exactly match the colour/fabric retrospectively.

 

However, as MoxC points out, it is not actually the case that a waistcoat should always 'match' the rest of a suit in terms of colour or fabric.The main standard variations I'm aware of (and there may be several others) are:

 

1. Solid colour wool waistcoats, in grey, champagne, beige, cream or darker colours like burgundy, navy or dark brown. You can wear these as part of morning dress but you can also wear them with a suit whose colour they complement (not match).  In the winter, I will sometimes wear a light grey waistcoat with a midnight blue suit, or a burgundy waistcoat with a mid-grey pinstripe.

2. Tattersall (or plaid) waistcoats with tweed or other country suits. A very British tradition. Haven't done it myself, but I have seen it look very good indeed.

3. Fancy silk and/or embroidered waistcoats with an equally high quality suit (peacocks only...).

4. Cotton or linen waistcoats added to a lightweight suit - again, colours should complement.

 

It is also often said that when wearing a waistcoat as part of a non-suit combination, it should match the jacket. Again, I don't think this is a misleading rule. It is often easier to do this because it removes one component that you have to think about in terms of how it works with the whole outfit, but not only is there a long tradition of trouser plus waistcoat matching (as in the stroller combination), but it is also perfectly possibly, with care, to have different trousers, waistcoat and coat. (I often also wear a good quality tweed waistcoat with jeans in the winter, but that's another story).

post #14 of 20
It seems there are growing numbers of people who prefer black suits. One of my friends think it is becoming more acceptable. In my opinion, BLACK SUITS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE in any occasions except funerals. Even then, I would not really wear a black suit. I will wear a black tuxedo, which is traditional, to black tie events. BUT NEVER THE BLACK SUIT. Heck, I don't even like black shoes.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by Mox C View Post

To expand on KObalto's post, very few blacks are the same black. If you get a vest after the fact, it will be a slightly different color black and the material will likely have a different texture and level of shine.

And to expand even more on this even if you manage to find the same fabric/texture, its best to get matching things made from the same batch of the material as the dye might be a bit off even if its the same fabric/maker/texture.
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