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Why does everyone here dislike "high-end" brands? - Page 3
The conspicuousness of logos is a separate issue. Generally, displaying logos in what is known as businesswear isn't classy, since it both indicates an insecure desire to look wealthy while simultaneously representing you didn't have the taste to get it custom-made. Security is best displayed by humility (...unless you're Persian). That being said, one doesn't always want to look wise and sometimes it's fun to appeal to the masses, or uninformed females, by wearing designer cufflinks, sunglasses, or bags (or underwear)... again, all accessories.
In my case it's a big effort to spend hard earned money on clothing (and if it wasn't one of my biggest hobbies right now I would not spend nearly as much), and if I were to spend €1500 on a suit I'd rather get something made by an artisan than some dubious quality stuff with a designer name slapped on it.
Yeah something like that. Most high-end brands are off the peg suits/clothes and the chances are they're not going to fit correctly. You can see a local tailor, tell him what you want and get want you want for much less than buying a top branded suit.* That way you are not dictated to by clothing manufacturers and you get freedom of choice. With a big brand all you're paying for really in the name; it doesn't mean to say it's a good suit.
* I say that because I've never had a suit made yet which I am 100% completely happy with, though most shape up pretty well. It's generally minor things like the type of stiching on the button holes, button spacing etc.
Part of the reason is that brands of any type aren't bespoke, and for articles where 'fit' is paramount to aesthetics, such as suits, shoes, shirts, and maybe ties, a custom fit both looks best and gives the freedom to play with our own creativity; something RTW (or MTM) brands dont offer. Accessories are free to be high-end brands, if made well.
Not so sure that I agree with this (and similar) generalized statements. There are way too many "critique my MTM / bespoke suit" threads out there, which proof that MTM / bespoke can look much worse than RTW.
A better statement is, that you can achieve the best possible fit only with bespoke, but there is no guarantee that every single bespoke project will look good. Indeed it requires a lot of investment in time and money to get a high probability of a satisfactory outcome. Of course, once you and your tailor pinned it down, it looks and feels fantastic.
Yes, MTM and bespoke is indeed a process, and first projects aren't guaranteed to look good; they could even be a huge disaster. But in the long run I think it's worth it... it's not only the fit. It's also the satisfaction of owning a garment that has been cut and made for you, and (in the case of bespoke) has been made by hand by an experienced craftsman, and is in itself a work of art. A lot of people here, including me, have huge appreciation for such things.
This forum has a high tolerance for, for example, Hermes and even LV leather goods. Though it prefers Charvet ties and PSes. But it is not opposed to the well-known and well-advertised.
But this forum has a low tolerance for things sold at premium prices on their brand name on the back of expensive ad campaigns rather than on their inherent quality or aesthetic value, while similar non-branded items are available at a fraction of the cost.
For me, Oxxford, Brioni, Canali, Turnbull and Asor, E. Zegna, etc, are high-end brands and make some of the best clothes on the planet. Other than Canali, I do not own much of these. I cannot afford them.
Name brands. on the other hand, often charge way too much for the name. Some of their clothes have inferior construction, and others have clothes marketed under their names but made by others. In almost every case, there is no bang for the buck.
Everybody has a different tastes and I am confused too. They disliked high-end brands maybe they can't afford to have it.
This is a very lazy argument. Perhaps it is true in some cases (a form of inverse snobbery). But to imply that anyone who doesn't want the looks produced by fashion-forward fashion brands, or have 'Louis Vuitton' plastered all over their luggage, is simply envious of those who can is somewhat smallminded.
Meh, as a teenager I used to think that Aquascutum was the dog's danglies and while I still think their coats are an essential item of any gentleman's wardrobe, I looked at some other items of theirs that I still own - t-shirts, polo shirts, jumpers, cardigans etc; I must say, the quality is marginally better than that which you would expect from an overpriced tat-shop such as River Island, Topman or Gap.
I think 'fashion' is a horrible thing; 'style' is to be admired, 'fashion' is to be abhorred. For example, take a look at these frankly disgusting shoes:
Nearly £1000? Really? They're that price because they're currently on the catwalk. I'd rather a pair of proper shoes for less than half the price thanks. It's that kind of thing which makes me snort at brands like Louis Vuitton, Alexander McQueen, Burberry etc.
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