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No real relevance to the thread whatsoever but he's not wrong !!!!

who?

Mr Moo check out his SC's they are abs fantastic, doesnt really matter about the price they are just a stunning pair shoes. We can discuss at length the whys and wherefores of construction and value for money but sometimes it just all comes down to " they look good, they fit good and they make me feel good!!"
post #272 of 416
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Mr Moo check out his SC's they are abs fantastic, Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
doesnt really matter about the price they are just a stunning pair shoes. We can discuss at length the whys and wherefores of construction and value for money but sometimes it just all comes down to " they look good, they fit good and they make me feel good!!"

ah, ok. you're right. they're not bad. st. crispin's is pushing the envelope. that's for sure.
post #273 of 416
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ah, ok. you're right. they're not bad. st. crispin's is pushing the envelope. that's for sure.

Well they are so hard to find in shops, they must need a higher price point for the weaker economic of sale.

Anyway St. Cripin's shoes are very well made, easy to last a long time, plus their sole treatment is in my opinion the best, the real rock solid.

Perhaps Fritzl may explain more.
post #274 of 416

That's quite a lot to spend on shoes..

The advantages would be you'd feel a million dollars wearing them and for that price you'd expect them to last for a long time!

 

However, it'll feel as though someone's taken a piece of your arm if they ever get scuffed and you'll be constantly walking on eggshells.

I'd save the money from the upgrade and buy a nice shirt!
 

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That's quite a lot to spend on shoes..
The advantages would be you'd feel a million dollars wearing them and for that price you'd expect them to last for a long time!

However, it'll feel as though someone's taken a piece of your arm if they ever get scuffed and you'll be constantly walking on eggshells.
I'd save the money from the upgrade and buy a nice shirt!

 

When you lurk more, I believed you will turn back and say 'why would I said that?', don't worry, this place is full of evil.

Now someone is going to throw shit at you, good luck.
post #276 of 416
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apples to oranges, imo.
hendrix and some others point was, that it is unnecessary to talk your ass off about some gimmicky features of your favorite brand. got it?

That's your personal opinion. Mine is this.

It is unnecessary to talk your ass off about some rustic features of your favorite regional maker?

There is absolutely no excuse for your insistently rude, crude, and insulting insistence on attempting to impose your personal tastes and choices on others.

In my opinion it is highly detrimental to the process of learning for those who come to this forum to discuss the various details of the shoes to which they have access.
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You gents all make great vague arguments, can we end this thread now smile.gif
post #278 of 416
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Well they are so hard to find in shops, they must need a higher price point for the weaker economic of sale.
Anyway St. Cripin's shoes are very well made, easy to last a long time, plus their sole treatment is in my opinion the best, the real rock solid.
Perhaps Fritzl may explain more.

US-based price is $1600+ e.g. Leather Soul. Does this relate to the cost of importing the shoe for sale and markup? Last time I ordered directly from Saint Crispin's the price was 800 euros for shoes, 830 euros for boots. Trees were 90 euros and shipping with DHL was 90. You can specify which of their RTW lasts you want, leather type and colour. First order gets you a 15% discount on shoes and trees.

So does the approximately $1250 price tag (non-discounted) for an hand lasted, high quality construction, MTO shoe represent a better value over a $500 pair of shoes? Does the first order discounted price trump the $500 pair even more? To be honest, you can get similar quality and MTO options with Vass for half the price. But our choices are not only made with our heads but with our hearts. You cannot put a price on esthetic appeal.

For me the answer is simply "yes". Fit (objective) + MTO (objective) + esthetics (subjective) + 6 week turnaround (objective). SC offers me something I have yet to find in the $500 shoe. However, I would not expect everyone to agree and I might change my mind should I run across the $500 shoe the fits as well and offers as much flexibility in ordering. I'm sure it is out there but have not met it yet.
post #279 of 416
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US-based price is $1600+ e.g. Leather Soul. Does this relate to the cost of importing the shoe for sale and markup? Last time I ordered directly from Saint Crispin's the price was 800 euros for shoes, 830 euros for boots. Trees were 90 euros and shipping with DHL was 90. You can specify which of their RTW lasts you want, leather type and colour. First order gets you a 15% discount on shoes and trees.
So does the approximately $1250 price tag (non-discounted) for an hand lasted, high quality construction, MTO shoe represent a better value over a $500 pair of shoes? Does the first order discounted price trump the $500 pair even more? To be honest, you can get similar quality and MTO options with Vass for half the price. But our choices are not only made with our heads but with our hearts. You cannot put a price on esthetic appeal.
For me the answer is simply "yes". Fit (objective) + MTO (objective) + esthetics (subjective) + 6 week turnaround (objective). SC offers me something I have yet to find in the $500 shoe. However, I would not expect everyone to agree and I might change my mind should I run across the $500 shoe the fits as well and offers as much flexibility in ordering.
I'm sure it is out there but have not met it yet.

i wouldn't bet on this.
post #280 of 416
This is what I call a 1% thread.
post #281 of 416
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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post

i wouldn't bet on this.

My gut tells me you are correct but I'm just trying to be optimistic:)
post #282 of 416
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My gut tells me you are correct but I'm just trying to be optimistic:)

from what is shown here. meermin is very good, but i doubt they can hold the price level. actually, a step or two below SC though. different niche and target group.
post #283 of 416
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Perhaps Fritzl may explain more.

I may not. I had the pleasure to visit their showroom in Vienna on courtesy of fellow member medtech expat and on invitation of philipp car. medtech had an appointment for a fitting and was so kind to take me with him. we had a great time. shoelovers united.
post #284 of 416
Hendrix,

You've made it clear so far that you have one, and only one quality evaluation for a shoe. That being the method of creating the inseam.

As so far as I can see you seem to have completed disregarded all other criteria at one point or another in this conversation.

You have indicated that the quality of the materials used doesn't impact quality to you. That careful craftsmenship of the details doesn't impact quality to you. That quality of finishing and artistry mean nothing to you regarding quality. The selections of the leather by the clickers mean nothing to you. The method of lasting and thus the amount of 'tension' and stretch of the leather on the end product mean nothing to you.

Surely your understanding of quality is more complex than simply judging everything about the end result around one and only criteria.

Would you please elaborate as to what other factors do mean 'quality' to you?
post #285 of 416
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So does the approximately $1250 price tag (non-discounted) for an hand lasted, high quality construction, MTO shoe represent a better value over a $500 pair of shoes? Does the first order discounted price trump the $500 pair even more? To be honest, you can get similar quality and MTO options with Vass for half the price. But our choices are not only made with our heads but with our hearts. You cannot put a price on aesthetic appeal.
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Exactly
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