Originally Posted by HRoi
I've only ever kopped Nikes at retail, too. They're such a bad deal at retail that it's hard to stomach reseller prices even if you can easily afford them (which anyone copping CP's or MMM should). I almost made an exception for the Doernbecher AJ3, but saw it in person and saw how poor the quality was for something that was going for 6 bills plus in the secondary market. One of these days, I'll still make an exception for the white/cement OG AJ4's which are my long lost original pair of Nikes
Another interesting thing is that Nike priced the latest 5 retros a lot closer to the current eBay price for Jordan retros, which means they're trying to capture more of the true market value of these shoes. Does that mean the ceiling will readjust itself, or will resellers essentially stop making profits?
FYI the quality on the most recent iteration of the white/cement AJ 4s is pretty bad.
The latest Jordan 5s, the Oreos, retail for $170. The $170 started 2 retroes ago with the 10s. The Laney 5s also retailed for $170, which was the previous retro 5s prior to the Oreos. All of these are General Releases, which suck for reselling. You can maybe make $20 profit on them. Ebay is a pretty horrible place to look at prices since there is a lot of shilling that goes on. Your local Craigslist is a more realistic place to determine market value.
Resellers will never stop making profits. It is so ridiculous now that coders are making money off as an effect. There's been several folks who wrote scripts and sell them to thousands of kids at $20-30 a pop...not bad for a day's work. This means that if you have no scripts/bots along with some fast internet connection and a fast computer, you will never be able to cop anything limited on launch day. Look at those DB Foams and Xs that launched last week. The Foams retailed for $250 and was going for $1,000 the next day. This is where the profit is made, not trying to gain minimal margin from flipping General Releases. There were folks who ended up with 10+ pairs of each so yeah, I would have done the same in flipping them.
Nike is fully aware of what's going on. Trust they have analysts lurking NT, ISS, eBay, etc. for the current trends. They created the hype, now they control it. It is laughable the extreme lengths these kids go to buy what is deemed 'heat', ie boosting up their computer, adjusting hops, ping, etc. Nike does have a 'fraud' dept. that cancels suspicious orders though, ie those with bots. They cancel orders that are placed too fast or suspicion that they weren't made by human beings. Of course, there are bots to counter that too, lol. They mimic mouse clicks and all that jazz.
Lucky for me, you don't really need a bot to get General Releases since they are so heavily produced...6 figure range. The only pair that I wanted and struck out was the black Grapes. I'm not part of the new age that get the Quickstrike stuff.