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post #4426 of 7485
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Dude is too obsessed to be accepted as a high-fashion designer.

I am not sure about getting royalties either, I know about supporting for the future of his kid but dude makes millions upon millions and spends a glamorous amount on the stupidest shit like 24k golden toilet and now he is worried about having enough money for his kid?

Comparing himself to Steve Jobs and Michael Jordan and claiming that he'll be bigger than Walmart? Dude is just off his rockers these days. Everyone knows i'm a huge Kanye fan but he really just needs to shut up and bring out some damn good music again.
post #4427 of 7485
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Comparing himself to Steve Jobs and Michael Jordan and claiming that he'll be bigger than Walmart? Dude is just off his rockers these days. Everyone knows i'm a huge Kanye fan but he really just needs to shut up and bring out some damn good music again.

Ditto all of this.

I was always a huge fan of his, even when everyone was hating on him when the Taylor Swift shit was happening, but he's really making it next to impossible to be a fan of his right now.
post #4428 of 7485
Kanye definitely thinks that he's got the chops to be a designer and that's he's not being taken seriously or given enough creative control to make his own line. He's validated in his own view by the fact that a) he's reached the apex of the rap game, b) he's left an indelible mark on popular music c) his collaborations with APC and Nike sell out instantly and d) he's attempted to pitch stuff to designers that later blew up elsewhere (leather jogging pants).

As a result, he sees himself being capable of great things in the fashion world, but he's unable to get the exposure or creative control he desires. Plus, Heidi slimane told him that he could only go to his fashion show if he didn't go to any other shows, which he saw as a huge snub. Of course, him being a black guy in a very very white industry, he feels like a huge underdog, and sees parallels between himself and Michael Jackson, who was seen as an "urban" artist who had to fight to get radio play on pop stations.

I'm not totally clear what his womenswear line fits in with all of this. But regardless, he's not nearly as crazy as people say he is/how he comes off and I'm really interested in what he puts out next.
post #4429 of 7485
There was an interview with the people he had hired to design pastel on selectism the other day.
post #4430 of 7485
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

Kanye definitely thinks that he's got the chops to be a designer and that's he's not being taken seriously or given enough creative control to make his own line. He's validated in his own view by the fact that a) he's reached the apex of the rap game, b) he's left an indelible mark on popular music c) his collaborations with APC and Nike sell out instantly and d) he's attempted to pitch stuff to designers that later blew up elsewhere (leather jogging pants).

As a result, he sees himself being capable of great things in the fashion world, but he's unable to get the exposure or creative control he desires. Plus, Heidi slimane told him that he could only go to his fashion show if he didn't go to any other shows, which he saw as a huge snub. Of course, him being a black guy in a very very white industry, he feels like a huge underdog, and sees parallels between himself and Michael Jackson, who was seen as an "urban" artist who had to fight to get radio play on pop stations.

I'm not totally clear what his womenswear line fits in with all of this. But regardless, he's not nearly as crazy as people say he is/how he comes off and I'm really interested in what he puts out next.

I don't know, he seems to always thinks it is him against the world and that isn't really the case. There are just thing he cannot excel in period.

To be honest, I thought the same thing at first, that he isn't as crazy as he looks and this was all a genius ploy to get exposure but with all these recent rants and attacks to the paparazzi and thinking he is god is simply ridiculous. Sad part is, he truly believes it.

I mean why does he want to fit in with the high-fashion-designer-world, why is he so obsessed to be accepted by these designers as one of their own? He can simply make his own brand, like the highly-anticipated Pastelle line that crapped out and make out like a bandit. But no, dude wants to insert himself in a world that he simply isn't good at. I mean yes he suggested leather jogging pants and it took off, somewhat, but that is still a terrible article of clothing.

And to be honest, Yeezy and APC collab sold out because they were very, very limited. Make it a mass produced line and it'll sit on the sales rack at the end of the season. Hell I would bet about 3/4ths of the Yeezys sold aren't even worn, they are stored in a ziplock bag hidden on a dark closet waiting for it to jump up in value, which will likely happen now that he is with Adidas. But again, that is the hypebeast and resell movement and not necessarily because the Yeezys were some out of this world design. If I were Nike, I'd release all colors everywhere and make bank just to piss ye off.

What's even more funny is that he always contradicts himself, always talking about why spending money on clothes and why you so insecure all these shit and how he wants to help people that are down and then he does these collabs that charges $300 for a plain tee and trying to enter the high fashion world and try to charge crazy amounts of money for it when he always says that is what is against from. Sometimes, it just makes no sense and you just see him as crazy.

And to be quite honest, his albums quality have been on the decline ever since his first album, still good but it just isn't the same.
post #4431 of 7485
I think MBTF was his best album. 808's and Yeezus were both stuff he wanted to make to please himself rather than make "another good album". 808's was hugely influential (no 808's, no drake, IMO), and i think Yeezus will be looked on similarly in hindsight.

Anyway, I don't think his public freakouts are a genius move or anything, i think they're just him trying (and failing) to articulate where he's coming from and what he's trying to do.

As for why fashion, I think it's because he thinks it's the next thing he can "conquer" and its the best way he can give back. He obviously thinks he can do it, and considering he actually hasn't had the backing yet, the proof will be in the pudding I suppose. He knows how to keep his finger on the pulse of culture music-wise, and considering he's got a pretty good design sense with the yeezus tour I think he has a good shot of pulling it off.

He also said in an interview that he wanted to make it accessibly priced idk what that means though.
post #4432 of 7485
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Well supposedly he spent millions in a fashion line and just couldn't pull it off himself, his latest womens line was highly criticized and his fashions tudio just shut down last week iirc.

Not sure what you meant with good design sense for the yeezus tour, as in the rip-off rocker clothes he is selling in his pop-up stores? Or the Margiela line of clothes especially made for this tour?

I mean I understand going for what you want and never giving up but he seems to seek too much validation from other people than anything else. I mean if he really is into fashion, he should just go ahead with his line and sell them, he has enough following for it to be a success in some markets but no, he wants Anna Wintours phrases, he wants the acceptance from fashion critics and to call him a god, which I think is simply the wrong path to take. Suggesting leather jogging pants or wearing polo with an LV backpack doesn't make you a fashion genius. No denying he has become a fashion icon there past few years but what he usually puts together isn't something exceptionally original anyways, he just pulls it out people thought he did it first because he is mainstream.


As for his public freakouts, not sure attacking paparazzi and telling them to never speak to him or his family at all is just trying to articulate himself. To be fair, I have heard nothing but great things when he meets fans though and that is why sometimes I just think dude is a genius at getting attention.


As for 808s, not sure about that statement. I say yes he helped make it bigger than it is but autotune has been out and about for years before that came out. Hell Britneys been doing it before we even knew the name Kanye. lol8[1].gif Drakes popularity and pussy-destroying status is inevitable.
post #4433 of 7485
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post

There was an interview with the people he had hired to design pastel on selectism the other day.
In the interview with Zane of BBC, he said something like he couldn't find one decent pattern cutter while out in Italy. Lol.
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Well supposedly he spent millions in a fashion line and just couldn't pull it off himself, his latest womens line was highly criticized and his fashions tudio just shut down last week iirc.

Not sure what you meant with good design sense for the yeezus tour, as in the rip-off rocker clothes he is selling in his pop-up stores? Or the Margiela line of clothes especially made for this tour?

I mean I understand going for what you want and never giving up but he seems to seek too much validation from other people than anything else. I mean if he really is into fashion, he should just go ahead with his line and sell them, he has enough following for it to be a success in some markets but no, he wants Anna Wintours phrases, he wants the acceptance from fashion critics and to call him a god, which I think is simply the wrong path to take. Suggesting leather jogging pants or wearing polo with an LV backpack doesn't make you a fashion genius. No denying he has become a fashion icon there past few years but what he usually puts together isn't something exceptionally original anyways, he just pulls it out people thought he did it first because he is mainstream.


As for his public freakouts, not sure attacking paparazzi and telling them to never speak to him or his family at all is just trying to articulate himself. To be fair, I have heard nothing but great things when he meets fans though and that is why sometimes I just think dude is a genius at getting attention.


As for 808s, not sure about that statement. I say yes he helped make it bigger than it is but autotune has been out and about for years before that came out. Hell Britneys been doing it before we even knew the name Kanye. lol8[1].gif Drakes popularity and pussy-destroying status is inevitable.
I spent $13 million of my own money, Sway!!!!! I lost $13 million. Do you understand that?!!
post #4434 of 7485
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post #4435 of 7485
Dunno, hard to be mad at anyone for making sound business decisions. He's got a pretty limited window to cash out.
post #4436 of 7485
To rekindle this fire about dressing up for the gym, I do think it's interesting how much Nike products have succeeded in making working out "cool." Like, you get excited by the products, and it makes you want to go run sprints and do plyo and things like that. There are really a lot of intangibles, and the marketing is brilliant.

I have a pair of jogging tights I really like, but I don't have the confidence to not wear shorts over them.
post #4437 of 7485
this is not scientific but as the physique quality goes up, there is an inverse relationship to the outfit. the best built dudes wear champion tee shirts and zubaz pants
post #4438 of 7485
I was part of Big 10 rowing team and most of us wore CW-X or Under Armor for training. It's more like we did not care about price tag or design as long as the clothes work.
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I have a pair of jogging tights I really like, but I don't have the confidence to not wear shorts over them.

It is totally justified when there are ten well built dudes besides you running in just tights (No science here as well) but yeah I cannot pull it off when I am alone
post #4439 of 7485
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Under Armour are just as expensive as Nike though. UA is actually more stingy on sales at times, their compression shirts rarely goes on sale unless they have XXXL left. They are also excluded in coupon codes for the most part in Eastbay, Footlocker, etc...
post #4440 of 7485
UA stuff sells out pretty quickly even at retail. The quality is def there though. I've had compression gear from them that are 4-5 years old and worn multiple times a week and are holding up fine.
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