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post #16 of 52
Nothing is universally attractive. And there is no doubt that tailored clothing is going to resonate much better with some women than others.

But the real power of tailored clothing is that it gives you a wider range. This is, indeed, about as close as you can come to a universal babe-magnet. But you have to be able to do it right and this may require some sacrifices. The archetype here is, of course, James Bond.

There are two guiding principles. The first is context. You need to be able to dress appropriately, both up and down. And yes, this may occasionally require you to dress as a "slob." But, and here is where the tailored clothing really comes in, you also need to be able to rev it up. So you wear the t-shirt, go to the family bbq and drink beer with the cousins. But the next night, you put on a suit and go to a good restaurant. As you will be much better dressed than most of the other patrons but still perfectly appropriate, you will own the room and get treated with a surprising amount of respect by the staff. Most women, for some reason, find this combination deeply attractive.

The second principle is what I call the dog test. Suppose you are wearing a suit at a party and the family dog comes up to greet you. Let's say the greeting is on the enthusiastic side. What do you do?

If the answer is, squat down and scratch him behind the ears while ignoring the dog hair, slobber and mud that you are getting all over your expensive suit, you pass. If the answer is shy away in horror, you fail. If the answer is shy away in horror while calling desperately for someone to control this animal, you fail and don't get to take the test again.

If there is any universal principle here, it is that you own your clothes, the clothes don't own you. You use them for your own purposes. If wearing an old t-shirt is the right thing, that's what you do. If you need to scratch a dog while wearing a suit, that's what you do. This is why James Bond is James Bond and not an effete dandy.
post #17 of 52
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Originally Posted by gavrarabba View Post

Great topic.  My wife loves me in a well tailored suit, like that Facebook thing going around that A finely Tailored Suit is to a Woman like Lingerie is to a Man.  She just doesn't want me to talk about it.   I'm all for nice clothes, a great pair of shoes, accesories etc.  But there is something very unmanly about discussing it.  It's ok to complement someone, but that's it - move on.  I see my wife's point.  Just look good and shut up (knowing you look good).  

I think you just called all of us unmanly. shog[1].gif
post #18 of 52

Nah, online forums is different than discussing it...not sure why but it is.

post #19 of 52
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Originally Posted by MarkThomas View Post

Been married for 9 years and for the first several years my wife tried (to little avail) to reform my style (or lack thereof). Most of her suggestions were more on the fashion/trendy side of things rather than classic style. And why would I expect her to know classic men's style? We were in our early 20's and had little knowledge of anything, much less fine sartorial taste.

Since then I've been slowly discovering better clothing (in both style and quality) and she loves it. She loves being on the arm of the best dressed guy in the room (which isn't difficult living in Denver, the flip-flop-cargo-shorts-affliction-shirt wearer's mecca). Seriously, you should see what people wear to weddings around here, it's a casual wasteland. My obsession does seem to consume my thoughts and conversation choice from time to time but she's very good at bringing me back down to earth gently.

By the way, this is my first post on Styleforum. Glad to meet you all. Glad to be here. fing02%5B1%5D.gif

Welcome to the boards, Mark. Good story about you and the missus. Familiar story about how badly Americans dress. *Sigh*

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Originally Posted by KObalto View Post

I think you just called all of us unmanly. shog[1].gif

Hey, if the codpiece fits...

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post #20 of 52
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

Nothing is universally attractive. And there is no doubt that tailored clothing is going to resonate much better with some women than others.
But the real power of tailored clothing is that it gives you a wider range. This is, indeed, about as close as you can come to a universal babe-magnet. But you have to be able to do it right and this may require some sacrifices. The archetype here is, of course, James Bond.
There are two guiding principles. The first is context. You need to be able to dress appropriately, both up and down. And yes, this may occasionally require you to dress as a "slob." But, and here is where the tailored clothing really comes in, you also need to be able to rev it up. So you wear the t-shirt, go to the family bbq and drink beer with the cousins. But the next night, you put on a suit and go to a good restaurant. As you will be much better dressed than most of the other patrons but still perfectly appropriate, you will own the room and get treated with a surprising amount of respect by the staff. Most women, for some reason, find this combination deeply attractive.
The second principle is what I call the dog test. Suppose you are wearing a suit at a party and the family dog comes up to greet you. Let's say the greeting is on the enthusiastic side. What do you do?
If the answer is, squat down and scratch him behind the ears while ignoring the dog hair, slobber and mud that you are getting all over your expensive suit, you pass. If the answer is shy away in horror, you fail. If the answer is shy away in horror while calling desperately for someone to control this animal, you fail and don't get to take the test again.
If there is any universal principle here, it is that you own your clothes, the clothes don't own you. You use them for your own purposes. If wearing an old t-shirt is the right thing, that's what you do. If you need to scratch a dog while wearing a suit, that's what you do. This is why James Bond is James Bond and not an effete dandy.

I like this
post #21 of 52
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Originally Posted by clapeyron View Post

I once dated a girl who didn't like the spalla camicia. dumped her on the spot. true story.

Bravo! A man with principles.
post #22 of 52
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Originally Posted by Threadbearer View Post


Welcome to the boards, Mark. Good story about you and the missus. Familiar story about how badly Americans dress. *Sigh*
Hey, if the codpiece fits...
happy.gif

 

Ha. That can work in our favor (to those of us in America). I was one of the few people, outside of the wedding party, wearing a tie at the last wedding I was at. I knew it would be casual so I just wore a blazer, but it paid off with the attention of single bridesmaids. It can be a mixed bag, but the blessings pay off. That being said, I've experienced everything from gentle ribbing to criticism. Especially due to the number of shoes I own, which I still don't find ridiculous...

post #23 of 52
My wife appreciates my extreme erect alterations.
post #24 of 52
My wife huffs and puffs at taking my pics in the morning sometimes, but I remind her of the time she offered to use her breasts to sell bead bracelets to my eFriends online and she stops.
post #25 of 52
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

My wife huffs and puffs at taking my pics in the morning sometimes, but I remind her of the time she offered to use her breasts to sell bead bracelets to my eFriends online and she stops.

That's just wrong on so many levels. nod[1].gif
post #26 of 52
Anyone else think this thread was going to be an illicit pic fundraiser, chaired by bris and NYR?
post #27 of 52
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Originally Posted by marblehouse View Post

Anyone else think this thread was going to be an illicit pic fundraiser, chaired by bris and NYR?

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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

My wife huffs and puffs at taking my pics in the morning sometimes, but I remind her of the time she offered to use her breasts to sell bead bracelets to my eFriends online and she stops.

QED?
post #28 of 52

My wife's father has just offered to pay for a (reasonably-priced) bespoke suit for me...  icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif whether my wife likes it or not, at least her dad appreciates a fine suit.

post #29 of 52
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
We often take time here to talk about how our passion is received by the outside world. How many men instantly mark us as ghey, how many women find us "metro" (or something equally ridiculous), how people do not understand how we can spend so much time and money in the name of style, etc, etc. However, I'm interested to know how those closest to us view our interest in tailored men's clothing.
Recently I started dating a girl who told me that she had never been drawn to a guy who wore tailored clothing before. She said generally suits were a turn-off to her and that she favored a much more relaxed, unstudied aesthetic when it came to what guys wear (read: "macho" sloppy). While she admits to liking my approach to dressing the more she sees it, it was weird for me to think that a girl would be turned off by a guy in tailored clothing. Especially considering every girl I've dated up to her has loved how much pride I take in getting dressed.
I'm curious to know if anyone else has encountered a similar situation. I'm equally as curious to hear what other members' wives, girlfriends or even female friends think of their style. Do they think of it as a passion, a hobby, a guilty pleasure? Do they poke fun or encourage?
Since so many people come here and inquire about how to get laid by dressing well or how to catch the eye of a woman through style, I think some discussion on how the women we know and/or sleep with perceive our tastes and interests is warranted. Discuss
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some thoughts:

1. Dressing inappropriately formal (and I realise some people can get away with it more than others) makes people uncomfortable. It shouldn't, but it does.

2. Dressing casually is not dressing like a slob. I'm not saying you should buy designer sweatpants, because I don't buy into that, but I think in a modern world someone who wears tailored clothing exclusively is likely to be living in their own hobby. Nothing wrong with that.

3. Beware of women comments such as "Channing Tatum has such nice, relaxed style". Read: he's extremely good looking.

4. and yeah, what Bounder said about different people having different tastes, and also making sure you're comfortable in your clothes.


I don't really care what my girlfriend thinks about the clothes I wear, unless we're going to a special event in which she wants us to be turned out in a certain way. Yeah, it looks lame and high-schooley when she picks out a tie to go with her dress, but I don't mind a bit of kitsch if it makes her happy.
post #30 of 52
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

Nothing is universally attractive. And there is no doubt that tailored clothing is going to resonate much better with some women than others.
But the real power of tailored clothing is that it gives you a wider range. This is, indeed, about as close as you can come to a universal babe-magnet. But you have to be able to do it right and this may require some sacrifices. The archetype here is, of course, James Bond.
There are two guiding principles. The first is context. You need to be able to dress appropriately, both up and down. And yes, this may occasionally require you to dress as a "slob." But, and here is where the tailored clothing really comes in, you also need to be able to rev it up. So you wear the t-shirt, go to the family bbq and drink beer with the cousins. But the next night, you put on a suit and go to a good restaurant. As you will be much better dressed than most of the other patrons but still perfectly appropriate, you will own the room and get treated with a surprising amount of respect by the staff. Most women, for some reason, find this combination deeply attractive.
The second principle is what I call the dog test. Suppose you are wearing a suit at a party and the family dog comes up to greet you. Let's say the greeting is on the enthusiastic side. What do you do?
If the answer is, squat down and scratch him behind the ears while ignoring the dog hair, slobber and mud that you are getting all over your expensive suit, you pass. If the answer is shy away in horror, you fail. If the answer is shy away in horror while calling desperately for someone to control this animal, you fail and don't get to take the test again.
If there is any universal principle here, it is that you own your clothes, the clothes don't own you. You use them for your own purposes. If wearing an old t-shirt is the right thing, that's what you do. If you need to scratch a dog while wearing a suit, that's what you do. This is why James Bond is James Bond and not an effete dandy.

This is pretty spot on in my opinion. There are times to look casual and there are times to suit up, but as has been said, casual does not mean looking like a slob. For example: My brother and I went to a club last Thursday. The guy in front of me was wearing a baggy polo and ill-fitting black cargo pants and was not allowed in. I had on a slim-fit T-shirt/nice jeans and was let in with no problems. The "dog test", as you put it, reminds me of the quote that goes something like: "A man should look as if he dressed himself carefully and then forgot all about it."
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