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post #346 of 385
no club soda is carbonated water with salts added. seltzer water is just carbonated water.
post #347 of 385
Why would you add salt to water? Water is naturally salty. I suppose you mean minerals in general? There's also water out there that "naturally " contain lots and lots of minerals. They don't taste all that great though. I'd opt for soft seltzer and maybe add a pinch of salt.
post #348 of 385
i think it was originally created as an imitation of mineral water. i like it. it's not as salty and minerally as actual mineral water but there's enough that it alters the flavors a little differently from seltzer water (it also costs about the same and you don't have to dissolve salt in cold carbonated water yourself)
post #349 of 385
Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i bought like two packs of Q club soda. I don't really like it. I like the idea of himalayan salt, but the saltiness is too perceptible and its way too expensive.

any recs for club soda? or is that one of those things where the cheapest is best


None of the Q products really impress me when compared to Fever Tree.


Club sodas tend to have mixtures of different 'salts' (not just plain old sodium chloride) and commonly, but more importantly, some type of bicarbonate as it is thought that the process of carbonization introduces a trace amount of carbonic acid which skews the pH and alters the flavor. Thus a pinch of sodium- or potassium bicarbonate cures that. I would venture to believe that it is this pH adjustment that you prefer. I've always just used Vintage seltzer without the modifiers but should really try a taste test.


~ H




post #350 of 385
That makes total sense. Adding bicarbonate should increase the ph and make it less acidic. I don't think it's insignificant either. Like a ph difference of 2, 3

I didn't really like the Q tonic that much either but I don't think it was that different from fever tree. Kinda want to try making tonic water at home. Morgenthaler had a recipe for it. Didn't seem too hard
post #351 of 385

Probably isn't that hard...but seems too hard for me.

post #352 of 385
i think you just buy quinine online add it to simple syrup, and then add that to carbonated water
post #353 of 385
I think you need some other stuff, like citrus oils, and maybe spices. Nailing the recipe might be difficult, idk. Might taste better then though than bottled stuff. Guess I'll have to try it someday too!
post #354 of 385
I looked at the Morgenthaller book at a friend's place the other night. Glad to see a book on technique, but, I don't know, Morgenthaller has always rubbed me the wrong way a little.

What I am excited by is the Fall advent of the Death and Company cocktail book -- I love Death so this promises to be epic! (and hopefully better than the PDT book which I am also not really a fan of).

~ H
post #355 of 385
Is the PDT book more recipes than general info?
post #356 of 385
I can totally confirm your criticism towards Morgenthaler's book, indesertum. It's good but there's lots of room to improve.

Nonetheless, I think I'm gonna order some cinchona and gentian root to prepare his tonic syrup recipe... that experiment would cost me about 20 € though if I'm not happy with the result since I have to order that stuff online. But at least I've tried it.
post #357 of 385
I do rather like the book in general tho. I want jury rig something to carbonate drinks at home.

That blue blazer part and the part right next to it about the New Orleans drink was a big turn off tho. Should've edited that out. Not funny or entertaining and it really at least needs pictures to illustrate.
post #358 of 385
Yeah, it's good, but it could be even better. Maybe in the next edition.
post #359 of 385
The PDT book is mainly a recipe book, and a little bit of PDT philosophy. Problem is, I don't find the recipes all that good, even though I usually have the ingredients on hand to make them with the brands specified. We have a thread on it here somewhere....

~ H
post #360 of 385
So.. tried the tonic syrup recipe.

What can I say--prety good. It's a far richer taste than bottled tonic waters and also quite bitter (and much cheaper). This recipe needs a London dry gin, imo, to stand up to the tonic.

I removed the pith of the grapefruit peel but left it on the lemon peel, so this skewed the ratio a bit towards more grapefruit peel. I wasn't sure whether the pith was intended to add some bitterness so I left it on the lemon. Next batch I'll do it vice versa. My syrup also boiled a bit too much, I think. So that might be a reason for the strong bitterness--I like it, but it might be too much for some people.

The carbonation is a bit of a problem. I don't have a siphon (which would probably fix the issue but also double the price). It works, but might be too stale for some folks.
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