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dieworkwear said:

"Conceptually designed" is when you design for the aristoi, and "not conceptually designed" is when you design for the hoi polloi.

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"Hoi polloiester?"

dieworkwear said:

In all seriousness, I don't think designer fashion is less business-sensitive. It's just designed in a way that currently plugs into the conversation of concepts, forms, etc.

People making Costco dad jeans are just making whatever sells. They're not trying to sell you on an image, idea, concept, etc. Nor are they plugging into the bigger conversation on "fashion."

Do you not agree with that?

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I do agree with that. I'm being unnecessarily stubborn mostly for sport. In practice, I agree that there's less thought going into Costco clothing than "fashion" clothing (except maybe current YSL). But I also think there's value to design even if something is mass-produced. Mass production adds another constraint to the design process, but that can make it more interesting.

Oh wait, I see what you guys mean. The @ symbol on top of this comment text box, right @LA Guy?

dieworkwear said:

Oh wait, I see what you guys mean. The @ symbol on top of this comment text box, right @LA Guy ?

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Congratulations. You can also just use the @ symbol if you are using the Rich Text editor. You can adjust that setting in your account settings.

Great stuff here, Derek. The only thing you've seemed to gloss over is the presence of rat fur in haute couture. However, I'm sure you'll cover that sooner than later...

It's taken quite some time for me to begin valuing design as much as (if not more than) "quality." I initially began questioning the value of "quality" when I realized that it means different things to different to different people. And, therefore, is objectively no different than design. You can easily identify **** quality just as you can easily identify **** design. However, when you begin digging deeper, there's no merit to always valuing one over the other, especially considering one's ability to judge either is completely subjective. Things then only become more complicated when you start blurring the lines of utility, art and luxury.

Honestly, I feel like quality is so often overrated. The aspects of quality I care about usually relate in some way to design - e.g. how canvassing might give a suit's lapels a fuller, three dimensional look, or how a higher stitch count can give something a more refined appearance. With the exception of maybe leather goods and knitwaer, most things I've owned haven't fallen apart. I have J Crew clothes from the 90s that are still perfectly intact. They just look as terrible now as they did back then.

I think I lost all my pocket squares

Have you checked your pockets?

Did Spoopoker break in last night?

Is that a figure of speech, like "I lost all of my marbles"...

No, it means I lost them. I packed them away for an apartment move, and since unpacking, haven't been able to find them. I put them in an envelope, I remember, but no longer remember where I put that envelope.

Very sad. I think I had something like fifty squares, which took me years to collect. Lots of pieces that aren't recoverable, because they're unusual designs, like some old stuff Drake's did for Flusser or mid-century designers I found at thrift stores.

I emailed The Armoury and Drake's to see which designs I might be able to recover. Drake's said only the stuff from last season is available. Going to send an email to Rubinacci to see what they say as well.

Kind of sucks.

You see no chance of finding said envelope? Maybe you will stumble upon it at your place at a later date. Can at least hope...

Luckily you only need to buy one, white linen square to make your collection complete again

Seriously though, that does suck.



bourbonbasted said:

Luckily you only need to buy one, white linen square to make your collection complete again

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Boooooooo



pocketsquareguy said:

Did Spoopoker break in last night?

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I wonder if they will make the PTO roundup.

Hey look, it's @Tirailleur1 at the 1 minute mark of this new United Arrows video

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