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post #1531 of 2002
Seems like the scuffing problem is worse with wax.

And it pains me even more given the nice mirror shine the shoes take with wax polish.
post #1532 of 2002
Not in my experience. If the wax is shined really well and feels completely dry to the touch, friction doesn't cause scuffs like it does on a shoe polished with cream.

And I say this as a person who doesn't like a high shine on my shoes in most occasions.
post #1533 of 2002
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

Not in my experience. If the wax is shined really well and feels completely dry to the touch, friction doesn't cause scuffs like it does on a shoe polished with cream.

And I say this as a person who doesn't like a high shine on my shoes in most occasions.

 

You must be feeling better if you are discussing shoe polish routines at night. :)

post #1534 of 2002
I am pretty conscious of my feet, probably more so than most. I look weird trying to avoid shoe scuffing encounters.
post #1535 of 2002
Canta, how often are you applying Reno? Every week and half seems really excessive...
post #1536 of 2002
I have made my suspicions very clear in shoe care threads that I think the stuff is a contributing factor to the demise of a lot of my footwear.
post #1537 of 2002
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I have made my suspicions very clear in shoe care threads that I think the stuff is a contributing factor to the demise of a lot of my footwear.

Give me the cliff notes please so that I don't have to dig through that thread.

I have a bottle of it at home that I've yet to crack open.
post #1538 of 2002
I'm not sure you're reasoning, pB, but I spoke with fritzl about the stuff at length a few years ago and he was insistent that it should be used sparingly. I use Saphir conditioner regularly (let's say once every 20 wears or so?) and that seems to do the job, but I only use Reno 2-3 times a year and that's when things are looking particularly dry or beat up. Aside from that I just do the usual brush after wearing, trees, dust bags routine.

Worth noting that I rarely shine my shoes, and if I do it's with cream.
post #1539 of 2002
Essentially I don't think it is much more than a solvent heavy neutral polish. There's some solvents in it that give it the creamy texture and stuff, but I think that degrades the leather when used like people tend to do: too much and on the vamp of the shoe. Essentially I have had many pairs of shoes go in the garbage that saw nothing but love with this stuff and other Saphir products. Shoes that I have had since before Saphir was really a thing are in better shape than newer reno loved shoes that went kaput. Some shoe maker's I have also spoken with have said similar things about reno.

I do think it has a great use, however. I still use it just on toe and heel quarters of my highly polished shoes. A small dab about a half the size of a pea, swirling it around a bit and a buff brings back a high shine. It essentially to me is a finishing product, not a conditioner. If the solvents in the wax on your shoe has dried it picks it up and also deposits some more solvents to renew the finish. Slathering it on the vamp of your shoes I think is bad and my experience says that is the case.
post #1540 of 2002
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post #1541 of 2002
^I see you did a ninja edit, and I don't completely disagree with your sentiments. However, when it comes to shoes and shoe care, he was always pretty on-point.
post #1542 of 2002
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Essentially I don't think it is much more than a solvent heavy neutral polish. There's some solvents in it that give it the creamy texture and stuff, but I think that degrades the leather when used like people tend to do: too much and on the vamp of the shoe. Essentially I have had many pairs of shoes go in the garbage that saw nothing but love with this stuff and other Saphir products. Shoes that I have had since before Saphir was really a thing are in better shape than newer reno loved shoes that went kaput. Some shoe maker's I have also spoken with have said similar things about reno.

I mentioned this in the shoe care thread, but FWIW, I had a pair of Saint Crispins destroyed with too much Reno. The top layer of the leather kind of rubbed off.

I still use it, but very, very sparingly, and infrequently. I mostly use AE conditioner and cleaner, TBH. Not very sexy, but I feel safer and more confident with it.
post #1543 of 2002
Well, anything with solvents are going to take color and finish off of crust leather (which is a lot of Saint Crispins offerings). Crust leather has no finish and relies of dyes and polishes hand applied. Anything that disturbs that will be noticeable.
post #1544 of 2002
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post


I still use it, but very, very sparingly, and infrequently. I mostly use AE conditioner and cleaner, TBH. Not very sexy, but I feel safer and more confident with it.

 

I use that, too.

post #1545 of 2002
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post

I use that, too.
I use to use it quite often, it does wonders to soften stiff leather. I have stopped due to all the talk about the detriment of solvent cleaners.

Now I'm simply using the AE leather lotion, no Reno now a days. It simply adds moisture back to the leather...
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