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post #1276 of 1866

I love Aran sweaters - but the myths around their origins are silly.  The traditional is actually fairly new, about 130 years or so.  The traditional actually stemmed from a government sponsored initiative to promote economic productivity in the islandd.  There is pretty good evidence that the fishermen's sweaters were actually first adopted in mainland Ireland from those worn by the English and from fishermen in the North Sea.  Inis Meain's particular genius, and that of a handful of other makers, was in recutting sweaters, and making them in luxury fabrics, for fashion customers - we are much more lucrative than old folks and the tourists that actually visit the islands.  

post #1277 of 1866
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From dieworkwear recent blog post:

 

As much as I dislike the old horses being trotted out over and over again, I do love this picture of Steve McQueen.  It's pretty obvious that he 1) knows he's the shit, and 2) would look good in pretty much anything.

post #1278 of 1866
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I love Aran sweaters - but the myths around their origins are silly.  The traditional is actually fairly new, about 130 years or so.  The traditional actually stemmed from a government sponsored initiative to promote economic productivity in the islandd.  There is pretty good evidence that the fishermen's sweaters were actually first adopted in mainland Ireland from those worn by the English and from fishermen in the North Sea.  Inis Meain's particular genius, and that of a handful of other makers, was in recutting sweaters, and making them in luxury fabrics, for fashion customers - we are much more lucrative than old folks and the tourists that actually visit the islands.  

I heard from Talrach that some of his Japanese customers are now asking for a return to the rougher wool varieties. Funny how stuff sometimes comes back full circle.
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Inis Meain calls theirs the "Classic Aran Jacket":
http://www.kafka.co.uk/item/InisMeain_ClassicAranJacket-Palissandro_0_483_20653_0.html

You're welcome.  I personally like the Stark more - I like heavier knits than Inis Meain usually makes (though a few stockists do ask for sweaters in high gauge new wool) - but the classic Aran jacket is certainly nice.

That looks really nice. I think I'm starting to prefer the zipper front though, as it looks a bit cleaner, but I have little faith many stores will carry it. Barney's has it this season, but not in brown or even in my size.

http://www.barneys.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-BNY-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=502869491&q=inis%20meain&index=6
post #1279 of 1866
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Anyone have any good lookbook, historical or street pics of good fits with chunky white/cream crew-necks, preferably without collared shirts underneath? Nothing too extreme in style, but I'm not necessarily thinking worn with tailored jacket either. Trying to decide whether it'll be a worthwhile/versatile addition.

Beyond the obvious pairing with jeans/boots and a casual jacket (down jacket, field jacket, that sort of thing), I'm struggling to think of combos. Any more ideas? Also, apart from T shirts (and leaving aside BD collar shirts) anything else good to wear underneath?

I have a few cream colored sweaters. The first is a cream Inis Meain linen sweater. I don't know if I'd called it chunky, but it's certainly much thicker than your typical merino knit. I wear it in the summer under leather jackets. I also have a cream Aran rollneck from Asprey and a cream crewneck from Inis Meain that has a "basket weave" pattern on the front. Both of those get worn in the wintertime under Barbour jackets. with the crewnecks, I usually have a blue shirt underneath. Sometimes the linen one gets worn alone, just over a shirt, but frankly not that often.
post #1280 of 1866
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I heard from Talrach that some of his Japanese customers are now asking for a return to the rougher wool varieties. Funny how stuff sometimes comes back full circle.
That looks really nice. I think I'm starting to prefer the zipper front though, as it looks a bit cleaner, but I have little faith many stores will carry it. Barney's has it this season, but not in brown or even in my size.

http://www.barneys.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-BNY-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=502869491&q=inis%20meain&index=6

I've always wanted the rougher wool.  100% Virgin wool, lanolin treated. 

 

I can find you the zip through cardigan at any number of stores.  It's actually much more common.  But don't do it.  The cable patterns demand buttons.  Get the zipped version, and before you know it, you'll be wearing it through a mid-life crisis, under a sports jacket.

post #1281 of 1866
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I've always wanted the rougher wool.  100% Virgin wool, lanolin treated. 

I can find you the zip through cardigan at any number of stores.  It's actually much more common.  But don't do it.  The cable patterns demand buttons.  Get the zipped version, and before you know it, you'll be wearing it through a mid-life crisis, under a sports jacket.

I have a semi-rough Inis Meain that I bought on sale for like $70. Kind of odd since I think everything else I've seen from them has been in the luxury range. I really like it.

I think my obsession with leather jackets lately has already put me squarely in mid-life crisis mode. Actually wore the RRL one today that you linked me to. It's fantastic.
post #1282 of 1866
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I have a few cream colored sweaters. The first is a cream Inis Meain linen sweater. I don't know if I'd called it chunky, but it's certainly much thicker than your typical merino knit. I wear it in the summer under leather jackets. I also have a cream Aran rollneck from Asprey and a cream crewneck from Inis Meain that has a "basket weave" pattern on the front. Both of those get worn in the wintertime under Barbour jackets. with the crewnecks, I usually have a blue shirt underneath. Sometimes the linen one gets worn alone, just over a shirt, but frankly not that often.

What trousers do you wear with these outfits?
post #1283 of 1866
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I think I'm starting to prefer the zipper front though, as it looks a bit cleaner, but I have little faith many stores will carry it.

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Zippers on knitwear are evil.

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post #1284 of 1866
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post #1285 of 1866
Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

Anyone have any good lookbook, historical or street pics of good fits with chunky white/cream crew-necks, preferably without collared shirts underneath? Nothing too extreme in style, but I'm not necessarily thinking worn with tailored jacket either. Trying to decide whether it'll be a worthwhile/versatile addition.

Beyond the obvious pairing with jeans/boots and a casual jacket (down jacket, field jacket, that sort of thing), I'm struggling to think of combos. Any more ideas? Also, apart from T shirts (and leaving aside BD collar shirts) anything else good to wear underneath?

I have a few cream colored sweaters. The first is a cream Inis Meain linen sweater. I don't know if I'd called it chunky, but it's certainly much thicker than your typical merino knit. I wear it in the summer under leather jackets. I also have a cream Aran rollneck from Asprey and a cream crewneck from Inis Meain that has a "basket weave" pattern on the front. Both of those get worn in the wintertime under Barbour jackets. with the crewnecks, I usually have a blue shirt underneath. Sometimes the linen one gets worn alone, just over a shirt, but frankly not that often.
Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

From dieworkwear recent blog post:

 

Very helpful guys, thanks. I'm almost persuaded (one of the the sweaters I'm looking at is very similar to that pictured) I have the same further question as E,TF below, especially on options beyond the fairly obvious pairing of jeans & boots:

 

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What trousers do you wear with these outfits?
post #1286 of 1866
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I've always wanted the rougher wool.  100% Virgin wool, lanolin treated. 

Are you doing that group order? I saw your comment over at SWD. Is that going to be a one-off, or is this part of a bigger effort to organize SF-driven MTOs (like the Viberg)? If the latter, is it possible to have a thread for these projects, so people can follow along?
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What trousers do you wear with these outfits?

The linen sweater plus leather jacket gets worn with fawn flannel trousers. The other stuff, jeans or corduroys.
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post #1287 of 1866
Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post
 
Originally Posted by E,TF View Post

What trousers do you wear with these outfits?

The linen sweater plus leather jacket gets worn with fawn flannel trousers. The other stuff, jeans or corduroys.

 

Cool, thanks!

 

I'm contemplating getting a hand-knit Aran (if the one I want is already in stock; I'm too impatient to wait several months). I suspect the source I've googled up uses the traditional heavier/rougher wools. I figure that with a T-shirt or the similar underneath, it should be fine. It looks heavy enough to wear in a hurricane, without a jacket. :laugh:

 

They do a machine-made sweater too (cheaper, but a somewhat less visually interesting design). Still, will get it if the hand-knit isn't in stock, and maybe order the hand-knit at a later date.

post #1288 of 1866
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Fok mentioned at SWD that he might be organizing a custom order for a heavy, rough-wool Aran. Depending on where you're ordering from, his version might have a less dumpy cut.
post #1289 of 1866
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Fok mentioned at SWD that he might be organizing a custom order for a heavy, rough-wool Aran. Depending on where you're ordering from, his version might have a less dumpy cut.

 

Thanks for the heads-up; have PM'ed. Was just going to size down, but an improved cut all-round would of course be better.

post #1290 of 1866
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Are you doing that group order? I saw your comment over at SWD. Is that going to be a one-off, or is this part of a bigger effort to organize SF-driven MTOs (like the Viberg)? If the latter, is it possible to have a thread for these projects, so people can follow along?

Yes, there will be a consolidated "Styleforummarket" thread somewhere in the not so distant future.  It will be part of a bigger effort.  It's hard to put in all that work for just one order.  

 

Cheers,

 

Fok. 

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