@ManofKent they are 2011 I believe but thanks for the insight on the fabric.
@eluther thanks for your comment, I was pretty sure cinch back pants were not what I was looking for, but wanted to make sure. As far as buying I'm looking at used from rakuten, grailed, and yahoo Japan, I am a college student and appreciate your compliment.
I'm trying to experiment more right now with cheaper looser pants and found some eg clinches for relatively cheap (70 plus shipping), and just wanted to make sure they wouldn't work like I thought they wouldn't. Thanks for the ideas on cheaper pants! My budget for a pair is 70-80,so these suggestions look great.
As far as my taste goes I understand what you mean, I want looser pants to grow my taste, I like the look of looser pants in photos, but I'm unsure if I personally would like them in any form other than jeans, wool or corduroy feels like the perfect FW fabric for me, because I live in the Midwest and even now our days are starting to deep into the 30s (Fahrenheit).
Corduroy or even brushed cotton fatigues might be the way to go. Both are pretty versatile fabrics season and formality wise. I'm guessing that like me you're of the fuller proportioned waist than some of the skinny dudes on here - finding larger sizes on Rakuten can be difficult, but when they do crop up they are often reasonably priced. If you pm me your waist size I'll keep an eye out when I'm browsing. As eluther suggests don't be afraid to mix other brands with EG.