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Poll Results: Other things being equal, what is best?

 
  • 11% (3)
    (1) Issued, well-worn army surplus jacket.
  • 33% (9)
    (2) Unissued, authentic army jacket / repro of past uniform.
  • 55% (15)
    (3) Civilian jacket inspired by army design, with artificial 'worn in' effect.
27 Total Votes  
post #16 of 58
My point is, if a safari jacket is going to feel like costume, a field jacket will be no different; you're just dressed up as a different character. Either can be made to work with the right detailing. For example, I would not order a safari jacket in beige or tan. Navy blue is an obvious choice, but you could be more adventurous too.
post #17 of 58
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I have to disagree, particularly when these field jackets border on soldier costume. If you don't want a safari jacket to look like you are literally out on safari, have your shirtmaker make one up in with some more refined detailing and in a more suitably urban cloth.

Yeah, but the fact is that a soldier is a more ordinary occurrence than a late Victorian explorer/safari hunter. In other words, army jackets are not incongruous because one could plausibly have been in the army or (as is my case) have grown up on an army base etc.

I do like shirt jackets of a domesticated--as it were--variety, but they're a different beast altogether.
post #18 of 58
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post

Yeah, but the fact is that a soldier is a more ordinary occurrence than a late Victorian explorer/safari hunter. In other words, army jackets are not incongruous because one could plausibly have been in the army or (as is my case) have grown up on an army base etc.
I do like shirt jackets of a domesticated--as it were--variety, but they're a different beast altogether.

I think field jackets have their place. I have one myself. But I really use it more functionally than stylistically, if that makes any sense Stylistically, field jackets are really more semi-ironic SW&D than they are MC.

I take your point about a safari jacket being potentially costumey but I think that depends on how and where you intend to use it. It is true that a field jacket would probably look less out of place in Manhattan than a safari jacket but you'd need to wear it with engineer boots or unlaced sneaker to complete the look and you might not want to go there.

Anyway, there are a lot of different things in the safari-field jacket range that you might like. How, when and wear would you plan to use it?
post #19 of 58
I see a field jacket as one of the classic miltary styles that have been pressed into menswear. Wearing an original or replica seems a little costumey to me (though I can see an ironic application as well). As mentioned with regards to the Safari Jacket earlier in this thread, changing the colour (and the fit as most originals and replicas tend to be baggy fitting) can provide an iconic style which looks good in a variet of casual settings.
post #20 of 58
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

I think field jackets have their place. I have one myself. But I really use it more functionally than stylistically, if that makes any sense Stylistically, field jackets are really more semi-ironic SW&D than they are MC.
I take your point about a safari jacket being potentially costumey but I think that depends on how and where you intend to use it. It is true that a field jacket would probably look less out of place in Manhattan than a safari jacket but you'd need to wear it with engineer boots or unlaced sneaker to complete the look and you might not want to go there.

I'm not sure. Is this ironic? I just think it looks good:

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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post

Anyway, there are a lot of different things in the safari-field jacket range that you might like. How, when and wear would you plan to use it?

I think it would work as an alternative to any casual jacket (e.g. harrington, denim jacket, light leather jacket, etc.). So I'd wear it with jeans, cords, chinos, desert boots, sneakers, boat shoes etc.
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Originally Posted by bertie View Post

I see a field jacket as one of the classic miltary styles that have been pressed into menswear. Wearing an original or replica seems a little costumey to me (though I can see an ironic application as well). As mentioned with regards to the Safari Jacket earlier in this thread, changing the colour (and the fit as most originals and replicas tend to be baggy fitting) can provide an iconic style which looks good in a variet of casual settings.

Fair points. I think I'm moving away from the replica idea: especially if the design is old (as in the M-42), if the jacket is crisp one looks like an extra from a WW2 film. Must think hard about the colour issue.
post #21 of 58
radicaldog, if you like the j.crew Fatigue jacket, you may want to check if j.crew b&m outlet stores still offer one (not available at the j.crew online factory store afaik). They did a few seasons ago, and it was similar to the regular j.crew one, except without any artificial distressing and fraying.
post #22 of 58
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post

radicaldog, if you like the j.crew Fatigue jacket, you may want to check if j.crew b&m outlet stores still offer one (not available at the j.crew online factory store afaik). They did a few seasons ago, and it was similar to the regular j.crew one, except without any artificial distressing and fraying.

Thanks, but I'm in the UK, so no J. Crew outlets (or stores) here.
post #23 of 58
I've a khaki Barbour and an olive green Hackett field jacket. Love them both. The Hackett's lined so better for the Autumn and is just getting to the sort of "lived-in" state I like them to look. The barbour's still a little too box-fresh.
post #24 of 58
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Originally Posted by bertie View Post

As mentioned with regards to the Safari Jacket earlier in this thread, changing the colour (and the fit as most originals and replicas tend to be baggy fitting) can provide an iconic style which looks good in a variet of casual settings.

I did have a safari-inspired linen jacket in a medium blue that was applicable to the city on weekends. And it worked even better on holiday to the Caribbean or somewhere else tropical. Also, the details were not precisely accurate -- which helped. Unfortunately, it fit my former size and I gave it away.

With the TF, it was khaki and looked exactly like something you'd have seen on Yves St Laurent during his safari period. Gorgeous, rich, fabric though.

Color and fabrication are game changers in this case.
post #25 of 58
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post

Thanks, but I'm in the UK, so no J. Crew outlets (or stores) here.

Ah ok, then my vote goes to the Barbour Sapper jacket:

post #26 of 58
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Originally Posted by radicaldog View Post

I'm not sure. Is this ironic? I just think it looks good:

Really? I'm not seeing it. To me it looks like Woody Allen in an ugly jacket that's too big for him.

Since you are in the UK, my first thought would definitely be something like a Barbour Bedale. They are shorter than the more common Beaufort and don't have the game pocket in the back. You may, of course, think the UCT quotient is too high. But it doesn't really look costumey and does not look out-of-place even in central London, especially at the weekends. And it would certainly work with all of these jeans, "cords, chinos, desert boots, sneakers, boat shoes" except maybe boat shoes. But a field jacket wouldn't either, of course.

A modified safari jacket in heavy canvas, would probably look pretty good too, especially if you lose the epaulets and the upper outside pockets.
post #27 of 58
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Originally Posted by Wes Bourne View Post

Ah ok, then my vote goes to the Barbour Sapper jacket:

I like that.
post #28 of 58
Thread Starter 
I do have a Barbour field jacket. Something similar to this: http://www.barbourbymail.co.uk/Mens-Barbour-Longstone-Waxed-Jacket.html

But the waxed cotton is not breathable, and I'm looking for something lighter. I also used to have a Belstaff jacket that I liked years ago -- will look into that.
post #29 of 58
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Originally Posted by Cant kill da Rooster View Post

I like that.

Me, too. Does anyone who owns one know if it covers a SC? Or do they just offer the Barbour® Border Jacket? Which I really don't like as much.
post #30 of 58
Is this threak about recreating the M*A*S*H look or something?
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