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post #466 of 641
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I always get a full yard for a vest but I've been told many times that it's unnecessary. So, I dunno, but to be safe I get a yard.
post #467 of 641
People always tell me that I should get a proper trench coat, but all of the ones I have had in the past I ended up selling or giving away. I just sweat like crazy in them no matter how light.
post #468 of 641
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

People always tell me that I should get a proper trench coat, but ... I just sweat like crazy in them no matter how light.

You need to open trench coats regularly for proper ventilation.

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Edited by Threadbearer - 8/15/12 at 6:18pm
post #469 of 641
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

 

Did pretty well. Don't have a white FC (have a black one and never wear it, hah). No DB or linen suits. No black tie rig. All in all, not too bad!

post #470 of 641
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

Hmmmm, looks like i need to focus on these missing staples!  I tend to buy things on impulse with not much structure so some of these should help combine things i already own.

Great thread Manton, i really appreciate it!

post #471 of 641
what i need:
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis (bills, but no longer like the fit)
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel (have a Jos. Bank one that was from their higher end line? looking for something that doesn't look so cheezy, for mid-atlantic/NYC weather)

i would love some recs on these items for affordable, quality basics (think AE, not Alden) in all the above categories. looking to fill in all the holes until i can kop middle to higher end. it almost seems like there is a gap in the market between mid-grade and premium. this sounds like it could be a business opportunity for those in the menswear industry.
post #472 of 641
Edited because of reading comprehension fail
post #473 of 641

I happened to stumble upon this thread again in a Google search. Let's bump it and ask a question on the way.

 

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold Check
-mid gray flannel pants Check

-decent, non-chino khakis Check
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket Check
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit No
-a navy worsted single breasted suit No, unless pinstripes count
-a white FC shirt Check

-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD BIGCHECK, all of my current solid shirts except a single white one are blue

-black stitch caps Check
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) Check
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell No
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine No
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine Check
-a plain white linen hanky Check

 

10/14, not bad I guess 

For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) Check, but it's a worsted flannel pinstripe
-at least one linen suit No
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes No, but is next on my shoe purchase list.
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check Check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie Check
-at least one linen or linen blend tie No, but will have soon

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes No need
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel Check

 

Now for the question... I'm obviously lacking in the suit department. I only have a worsted navy pinstripe, a DB medium dark grey worsted flannel pinstripe, and a green with tan windowpane tweed. But most of the time, odd jacket or casual suits are more appropiate for me. Obviously, a grey suit is a staple and everyone should have one; but when money can't be spent carelessly and a more casual coat and tie approach is more coherent, shouldn't one prioritize what to get based on what he's going to wear most?

 

I'm just wondering because I still don't know if I should start my bespoke "journey" with a casual suit, a nice odd jacket, or a staple grey worsted suit (that I won't wear that often). Can't make up my damn mind...

post #474 of 641
The lack of a solid suit is a serious hole -- eventually you will need it, and that moment may arrive unexpectedly. You should rectify that immediately.

That said, it doesn't need to be bespoke if you'll wear it rarely.
post #475 of 641

That seems logical. Perhaps a RTW in the same brand and model of the navy pinstripe suit I already have will suffice; fit is pretty good after tailoring. It would draw some money from the "bespoke fund", but not much...

post #476 of 641
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I so fail.
ROFL!
post #477 of 641

I don't find suede or linen to be remotely essential.  Guess I never will be well dressed.  Oh well.

post #478 of 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky

For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

I found that immensely enjoyable. I love lists.

post #479 of 641

Here's what I have so far. Funny though, I still don't feel well dressed.

 

 

Quote:
-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky

For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel
post #480 of 641
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine (bow tie only)
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky

For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit .. (Linen jacket and odd trousers)
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie .... ... 70 silk and 30 silk bow ties
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel
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