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post #46 of 643
Given this, I assume you mean a gray worsted suit, not a flannel?
post #47 of 643

A well dressed bald guy should have a Homburg and a flat tweed cap.

post #48 of 643
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Given this, I assume you mean a gray worsted suit, not a flannel?
Yes, did I not specify that?
post #49 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you iive in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray single-breasted suit
-a navy single breasted suit
-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown or burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine
-a plain white linen hanky
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy is best; medium gray flannel is next
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

You forgot "Office pants."

I think your list is also somewhat slanted toward people who live in the NE. For example, in some parts of the south, a tweed jacket is a tough sell. I propose a tweed exemption for people living below the Mason Dixon line. In exchange, these people should be required to purchase a bow tie instead.
post #50 of 643
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Well I am from California and my list would be no different out there.

Tweed is useful in the SF damp and also in the desert at night, when it can get very cold. I could live without one in LA proper but out in eastern LA county, where I lived for a while, it got quite cold at night. Hell, I've even worn Shetland in Santa Cruz.
post #51 of 643
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You forgot "Office pants."
I think your list is also somewhat slanted toward people who live in the NE. For example, in some parts of the south, a tweed jacket is a tough sell. I propose a tweed exemption for people living below the Mason Dixon line. In exchange, these people should be required to purchase a bow tie instead.

The logic here is simple. Nobody can be well dressed in the south! teacha.gifsmile.gif
post #52 of 643
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Yes, did I not specify that?

Nope, this was your item:

-a mid to dark gray single-breasted suit
post #53 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Yes, did I not specify that?
Nope. It was implicit, though, but you had to get to the advanced section to be sure. So when you update the OP, don't forget to add your cal shirt and wine-stained chinos to make sure all occasions are covered.
post #54 of 643
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In exchange, these people should be required to purchase a bow tie instead.

Please no.
post #55 of 643
Hey - what about formal wear? Isn't that a must for your well-dressed man criteria?
I would just add "A complete, well-fitting, conventional black tie rig, including shoes" No need to be too prescriptive.
post #56 of 643
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Hey - what about formal wear? Isn't that a must for your well-dressed man criteria?
I would just add "A complete, well-fitting, conventional black tie rig, including shoes" No need to be too prescriptive.

Don't we all wish.
post #57 of 643
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Hey - what about formal wear? Isn't that a must for your well-dressed man criteria?
I would just add "A complete, well-fitting, conventional black tie rig, including shoes" No need to be too prescriptive.

Well, two minds on this one. Yes, I suppose that any fair definition of well dressed shoud include that. However, there are a lot of guys who could use every single thing on my list but who never, ever have call to wear black tie. So I don't know ...
post #58 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you iive in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold check, though my winter one is kind of a POS
-mid gray flannel pants check, though again, could be a nicer pair
-decent, non-chino khakis check, though I hate them. Bill's Khakis and the color ran in one wash.
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket check, but I am certain it would not have your approval. Way too funky.
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit temporary fail, but cloth has been procured and is in my tailor's hands, awaiting instruction
-a navy worsted single breasted suit check, but it is a BlazerSuit (tm), not sure if that counts
-a white FC shirt check, but I could use another one b/c I don't like the collar on mine anymore
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD check, of course, hard to fail this one.
-black stitch caps fail shog[1].gif
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) check
-loafers in medium brown or burg shell fail, but I hate loafers, and don't think I look good in them. I hate their proportions on bigger guys.
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine fail
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine fail, but I am about to remedy this with Hober. Does midnight blue count?
-a plain white linen hanky check
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) do chalkstripes count?
-at least one linen suit nope
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes I have this!
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check fail
-at least one wool or cashmere tie pass
-at least one linen or linen blend tie pass

Moral of the story - I should really have concentrated on the basics first. When you first get into this, even playing around with bespoke, it's so tempting to do some of the crazy things you always wanted to do while ignoring the "boring" things you probably should have sewn up first.

Damn you Manton, for this new shopping list.
post #59 of 643
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However, there are a lot of guys who could use every single thing on my list but who never, ever have call to wear black tie.

I would put myself in this group. I'm 30, have never had a black tie event, and may well never. If I really stretched it I could go to opening nights at the opera and fancy New Year's Eve parties and maybe be able to wear black tie once or twice a year, but even then I'd likely be in a small minority at these events. Hence my search for more dressed down versions of classic evening wear.
post #60 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Well, two minds on this one. Yes, I suppose that any fair definition of well dressed shoud include that. However, there are a lot of guys who could use every single thing on my list but who never, ever have call to wear black tie. So I don't know ...
I have heard that, but don't believe it. Everyone gets invited to a black-tie wedding at some point.
It makes perfect sense for someone to save the money and not buy black-tie and make do without or rent the one time you need it. But the list should have it. Whether to or how to follow the list is an individual choice, but the list should be complete. Or add "if necessary"
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