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post #376 of 643
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Originally Posted by Ianiceman View Post

Brown oxfords - I don't wear any oxfords as I have high insteps. Also I don't get the 'no bluchers/derbies with a suit' rule - I'm sure this must be an American thing as I never heard this growing up in England, perhaps HF or one of the other regular Brit residents can chip in here

Certainly in Oxford, a nice pair of derbies would be a massive step up for the absolute majority of suit wearers.
post #377 of 643
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I forgot. I said I don't have a navy blue tie, but I do. I just don't ever wear it. Got sick of it. Not a grenadine, though.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

you may send it to me, post hase.

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+1

Crap, I wanted to get in on this (I figure mafoofan's castoffs would be better than most ties I own), but I see I'm way too late.
post #378 of 643
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

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To me this is the menswear equivalent of "I don't like water"

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Surely most everyone dislike at least one colour? For some it's purple or orange, for me it's the colour of turd. I am slowly and slightly getting over this prejudice but it's gonna take some time.

For my next big purchase I'm thinking of jodhpur boots in a reddish brown chilli. Baby steps!
post #379 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

This thread is about tailored clothing only. If we expand beyond that, the list really could have no end. Besides, I think there are far fewer absolute staples in casual clothing than there are for tailored clothing.

Would be interesting though to see a casual list. Not for this thread, but for another. Maybe gdl (first name that comes to mind for a thread like that) could make one?
post #380 of 643
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

Would be interesting though to see a casual list. Not for this thread, but for another. Maybe gdl (first name that comes to mind for a thread like that) could make one?

i think manton or someone stated that there is no such thing as a casual list of essentials. stirpot.gif
post #381 of 643
Thread Starter 
maybe there is, but I know that I am not qualified to formulate it
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Neither am I. Icons of Men's Style by Josh Sims might be inspiring for someone who can formulate it.
post #383 of 643
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

Would be interesting though to see a casual list. Not for this thread, but for another. Maybe gdl (first name that comes to mind for a thread like that) could make one?

you?
post #384 of 643
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

You would wear a chelsea boot in the summer? I think the point of the loafer, like Manton said above is its versatility through the seasons.

Did I say Chelsea or chukka? I certainly intended the latter. Either way, yes, these are 3 season shoes, but I would wear the other option I suggested (split-toes) all year round.
post #385 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold check
-mid gray flannel pants check
-decent, non-chino khakis check
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket Funky?
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit check
-a navy worsted single breasted suit check
-a white FC shirt check
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD check
-black stitch caps No, but my midnight navy captoes look black
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) check
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell check, though I rarely wear them (I prefer monkstraps)
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine check
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine check
-a plain white linen hanky check
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) No, my DB suit is gray birdseye
-at least one linen suit No, this is a gap I'd like to fill
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes check
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check No, unless a black bowtie counts ;-)
-at least one wool or cashmere tie check
-at least one linen or linen blend tie No, but if texture is the important feature, does shantung silk count?
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes check, if captoes or black wholecuts work for the shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel check, if a chesterfield (except in gray herringbone cloth) counts

Although I've never slavishly followed the "no navy odd trousers" dogma, I own worsted and flannel navy trousers, but wear some shade of gray much, much more often. I find that the navy trousers just don't get much use, perhaps because I wear a lot of blue and navy trousers don't offer enough contrast(?).
post #386 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold Yep
-mid gray flannel pants Yep, I live in these in the winter. I end up buying a new pair about every year. Last season I really liked Hickey Freeman's version.
-decent, non-chino khakis Yep
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket Several funky odd jackets, but no tweed currently. (Lost weight and sold the 2 BB tweed SCs I used to have)
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit Yep
-a navy worsted single breasted suit Yep
-a white FC shirt Yep
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD Plenty of blue BC (and FC), no BD
-black stitch caps Yep, although I rarely wear them.
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) Yep, several and want more
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell Yep, brown calf. Got my eye on the RL Marlow shell next time it's on sale, although I never seem to actually wear the loafers I have.
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine Crummy "gig" tie (I'm a musician)
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine Yep
-a plain white linen hanky Yep
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) No, I think I look terrible in DB suits.
-at least one linen suit Someday, on the purchase list
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes Yep, several
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check Yep (Drake's from NM Last Call for under $40!)
-at least one wool or cashmere tie Yep
-at least one linen or linen blend tie Yep
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes Sorta. I have the shoes, but the jacket is notched lapel, 2 button. It's nice (Armani) but I didn't know any better when I got it (late 1990s). I also have a 2nd crummy "gig" tux.
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel Yep

I'm doing pretty well I suppose, especially since most of these were purchased since I started lurking here a couple of years ago. I'd like at get another tweed SC, preferably before fall. I teach a Masters-level class at a college in NYC so I guess it fits the professor look. I've never really had much use for BD shirts though. Out of approx 40 dress shirts I think I have 1 extra slim fit BB BD that I snagged at the Mr Porter sale last Jan and have worn maybe twice. I'd love to add a linen suit at some point too, especially a cigar linen: http://dieworkwear.com/post/19240786953/cigar-linen
Fred
post #387 of 643
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Originally Posted by NOBD View Post

I agree. I wouldn't wear a suit with my Alden chukka's. Well, maybe if I had an old shabby linen suit, without tie. smile.gif
Makes sense, Manton. I liked this as an experiment. I might wear it again to the opening of a an art exhibition, or something like that. After this time, I've only worn lighter shirts with it. (It's an old pic.) Can you "handle" chukka's with a suit?
http://i.imgur.com/icvQU.jpg
Thanks, Stitch. I like to keep it simple.
I wore an outfit VERY similar to this just a few weeks ago. Take out the grenadine, add in a gold/blue paisley, and solid charcoal.

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I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned difficulty to get all the stuff on the list. Bhowie mentioned that all of the stuff on the list that he has is RTW and altered, which I imagine is the case for most people. I would be ill-pressed to even find the majority of the things on that list in my size without resorting to MTM or bespoke.

Except loafers. I won't say never, but I can't imagine buying a pair in the next two decades. I hate those things.
post #388 of 643
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Originally Posted by deadly7 View Post

I would be ill-pressed to even find the majority of the things on that list in my size without resorting to MTM or bespoke.

Srsly? Like what? Name an item on that list that I couldn't find you 3 links to RTW options of within 10 minutes.
post #389 of 643
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Srsly? Like what? Name an item on that list that I couldn't find you 3 links to RTW options of within 10 minutes.
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-mid gray flannel pants

in 30x30.
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-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
in 36 Short. Preferrably intended to be a slim cut, since taking a full-figured suit/jacket and turning it into a slim cut inevitably looks atrocious.

I live near a NM, Off Fifth, plus all your usual mall stores (nordstrom's, macy's, etc.) and have never found them in my size.

The shirts, ties, and pocket squares I have [or could find easily for the knit ties I don't have an interest in].
post #390 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

maybe there is, but I know that I am not qualified to formulate it

Slim khakis, slightly short. White buttondown. The cardigan may be red or navy. Chelseas for dress or Converse All-Stars for play. Knit tie optional.

I've never really watched the Dick Van Dyke Show, but I suspect everything one might need to know about clothes can be found there.
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