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post #166 of 643
You wore a tuxedo to a job interview that requires you to clean toilets.
post #167 of 643
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Originally Posted by oldog/oldtrix View Post

Took a while to get to the punch line ("loafers...slip on"), but well worth it.

Actually, the "joke" was unintentional: Those few I've ever tried on actually did cause heel slippage!
post #168 of 643

I felt that way for years but since I bought the AE's I enjoy them immensely.  I do need a pair of black cap toes because the Mrs. and I will be attending the theatah more often this fall and winter but I'm really looking at a pair of suede loafers just like the Kenwoods.

post #169 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. Tick
-mid gray flannel pants mid-gray is a tick, but not flannel as it does not get cold enough in Sydney
-decent, non-chino khakis Tick
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit Tick
-a navy worsted single breasted suit Tick
-a white FC shirt Tick
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD Heck yeah!
-black stitch caps Half-tick for punch toecap
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) Tick
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell Tick but I'll have to replace due to overuse
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine Tick
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine Tick
-a plain white linen hanky Tick
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check Tick
-at least one wool or cashmere tie Tick
-at least one linen or linen blend tie Tick
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel
Tick
post #170 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold
-mid gray flannel pants
-decent, non-chino khakis
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket

-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit
-a navy worsted single breasted suit

-a white FC shirt
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD
-black stitch caps
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you)
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine

-a plain white linen hanky
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both)
-at least one linen suit
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check
-at least one wool or cashmere tie
-at least one linen or linen blend tie

If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

I have the items in bold.
Edited by Mr. Moo - 8/2/12 at 9:24pm
post #171 of 643

The formalwear thing is starting to want its own thread (is there one already?).  Meanwhile may I humbly suggest that those who own black tie setups (or who have such aspirations) wear them to concerts, operas, or ballet?  I'm willing to bet that the Missus, or equivalent, would be happy with an opportunity to throw on a gown as well wink.gif.  

 

I'm not one of those musicians who believes that the precepts of "Great Art" demand that a concert be a contemplation of said "Great Art" and nothing else (trust me, there are many who do).  "Classical" concerts have always been places to see and be seen; as much social occasions as musical performances, and I for one see nothing wrong with that.  The only reason I can think of that orchestras started wearing tux/tails in the first place is that they needed to keep up with the formal fashion of those attending the performances.  If no one is going to wear formal dress to an orchestra concert, then I think it makes far more sense for us to wear (non-black) suits, or something equally modern and relevant (in fact, some groups already do).  So get that dinner jacket out of the closet, take your lady out to dinner, sip a scotch at intermission, feel like god damn [insert betuxedoed hero], and maybe hear some Stravinsky while you're at it.  Just a thought...

 

 

Also,

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Originally Posted by Bounder View Post
What I really don't get is that I actually prefer to wear black tie because it is easier. "Black tie" on the invite means no tedious, endless speculation on what you are supposed to wear to the event.

my understanding was that this was one purpose of formal dress in the first place.  All the men in the room are wearing the same thing.  No color/pattern matching decisions, no peacocking, etc. It's the great sartorial equalizer, in a way.  Also, it's a blank background against which the ladies' gowns stand out more.

post #172 of 643
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post

I really don't. I had a DB Huntsman, but it was never right on me and I sold it. I like the way I look in one, and I wouldn't have a problem owning one - the right one just hasn't shown up cheap enough yet.

FTFY
post #173 of 643
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Originally Posted by Christopher Essex View Post

I'm fortunate to play violin in an amateur orchestra (and may also play with another one this year), so have an opportunity to wear my dinner suit 5 or more times/year.

anywhere we can find youtube videos of your work? that is very cool.
post #174 of 643
Very good list. Did pretty well on Manton's list except:

No SB gray or DB suits. The last ones were maybe '93. Ready for a DB, but not gray.

No solid black or solid navy ties. Solid ties are against my religion with the exception of solid silk knits and even then I only have a solid in olive currently.
post #175 of 643
I presume the OP is assuming that one has a white-collar job and lives in a large metropolitan US city. like New York or Washington DC.
post #176 of 643
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Originally Posted by eg1 View Post

This. I suspect there is a vanishingly small segment of the old guard where it still happens, but their time is passing.
To be clear, I could purchase tickets to black tie events (mostly charitable), but I do not equate that with being invited to a black tie event, if you understand the difference.

There's some stuff in Toronto I think. Charity, etc., but the barristers have an event for example. If they'll shell out for the gown, then they can buy a tux. Not a private dinner, but not entirely public.

That said, the quality of dress in Toronto would increase 100% were a T.M. Lewin to open. It shouldn't be so hard to find decent, inexpensive, interchangeable basics. More blue butcher stripes, navy wool ties, and fewer bright purple "dress shirts" on sale at The Bay. You shouldn't have to be rich to be able to afford something soporific.
post #177 of 643
has anyone mentioned
eggshell colour shirts yet?
post #178 of 643

I believe the original list specifies blue collars...

 

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Originally Posted by MikeDT View Post

I presume the OP is assuming that one has a white-collar job and lives in a large metropolitan US city.

 

Seriously though, isn't this the tacit assumption of most of the MC forum?  nest.gif

post #179 of 643
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

I have the items in bold.

Im shocked you don't have a white FC shirt, a white PS, or a pair of black captoe shoes.
post #180 of 643
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

-a blue odd jacket. If you live in a two-season climate, then two, one for warmth and one for the cold - yes
-mid gray flannel pants - yes
-decent, non-chino khakis - see 1 below
-at least one funky (but tasteful!) non-blue tweed jacket - yes
-a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit - see 2 below
-a navy worsted single breasted suit - yes
-a white FC shirt - yes
-several blue BC shirts, at least one BD - yes
-black stitch caps - see 3 below
-some tasteful brown oxfords (exact configuration up to you) - yes
-loafers in medium brown calf, suede or shell or else burg shell - have not worn loafers since the 80s (still have a pair of black weejuns gathering dust in my closet)
-a solid black tie, knit or grenadine - yes
-a solid navy tie, knit or grenadine - yes
-a plain white linen hanky- yes
For the "more advanced" players:
-at least one DB suit, navy worsted or medium gray flannel (the best dressers will have both) - have not worn a DB since the 80s (would be more likely to wear a DB blazer than suit)
-at least one linen suit - no (sportcoat for summer, yes, but not a suit)
-at least one pair of brown suede shoes - yes
-at least one formal tie, e.g., a B&W shepherd's check - yes
-at least one wool or cashmere tie- yes
-at least one linen or linen blend tie - yes
If necessary
-A complete, well-fitting, correct black tie rig, including shoes - no
-An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel - see 4 below

1 -decent, non-chino khakis

I don't think so. I have wheat coloured trousers, and khaki coloured jeans, but I am not sure that is what is intended

2 -a mid to dark gray worsted single-breasted suit

I have three, but one has a tiny pinstripe, another is a glen check, and the third is flannel. I am not sure if any qualify.

3 -black stitch caps

AE Byrons (my first decent shoe, bought at eye-watering full retail -- unless you are Australian or Canadian, I doubt you can imagine how painful that is), but strictly speaking they are punch-cap, right? Also Alden plain-toe bals, but they are no-cap. So, not sure here. confused0024.gif

4 -An overcoat in navy, charcoal or camel

One in charcoal and a fawn covert coat. Also an Invertere tweed and raincoat ( vox's baleful influence ...)
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