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post #376 of 522
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

While much of what SF espouses is solid advice and useful knowledge, the tendency toward group-think here is a quadrillion bajillion units of group-think tendency (pretty high).

Preference for light blue shirts over white is pretty widespread among many well-dressed fellas. I've certainly encountered it long before I came here.
post #377 of 522
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I'm sure that venture is doing splendidly.


 She was quite amusing to talk to. She said she didn't want to get involved with anyone deeply at that time. She was trying out smoking one of those "electric cigarettes" as she sat with me.

 

 She didn't like it and excused herself to go have a real one (non-smoking club)...

post #378 of 522
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Originally Posted by FillW View Post

 One night I was sitting in a club wearing a white shirt with a black sport jacket. An oriental gal saw me and told me I looked like I belonged in New York City.  She said she was moving to Pittsburgh to open her own clothing shop...
lol... oriental. What year is this?
post #379 of 522
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

lol... oriental. What year is this?

I wasn't sure if he was joking or just doesn't know better.
post #380 of 522
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

Preference for light blue shirts over white is pretty widespread among many well-dressed fellas. I've certainly encountered it long before I came here.

That doesn't mean that the white shirt is never a good choice, much less usually a bad one, as it seems to have been presented here.
post #381 of 522
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

Preference for light blue shirts over white is pretty widespread among many well-dressed fellas. I've certainly encountered it long before I came here.

And each is welcome to his own preference. Hardly the same as a rule, as I addressed in my post.
post #382 of 522
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

That doesn't mean that the white shirt is never a good choice, much less usually a bad one, as it seems to have been presented here.

Exactly.
post #383 of 522
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

And each is welcome to his own preference. Hardly the same as a rule, as I addressed in my post.

That's a fair point. Manton probably should have been clearer about that.
post #384 of 522
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post

So much of this strikes me as nonsense. Seems to be a codification of what you like and/or think, and that's fine, but it's presented as a set of rules, and I think a lot of them are bunk.

I used to have a lot of respect for your posts a few years ago when I last paid attention to SF (maybe because of your fine things, but I seem to recall solid commentary, I'm not going to exert the effort to look any of it up). But the sequence of threads that I've seen like this one make me think you may be drunk on the "authority" status you seem to enjoy here.

Just my thoughts, for what they are worth... partly expressed in the hope that others reading won't feel bound to the idea that, for instance, "for virtually any odd jacket combo you can think of, it's not just that a blue shirt would be better but that a white shirt is wrong," among others.

While much of what SF espouses is solid advice and useful knowledge, the tendency toward group-think here is a quadrillion bajillion units of group-think tendency (pretty high).

Which parts to you disagree with?
post #385 of 522
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post


So much of this strikes me as nonsense. Seems to be a codification of what you like and/or think, and that's fine, but it's presented as a set of rules, and I think a lot of them are bunk.

I used to have a lot of respect for your posts a few years ago when I last paid attention to SF (maybe because of your fine things, but I seem to recall solid commentary, I'm not going to exert the effort to look any of it up). But the sequence of threads that I've seen like this one make me think you may be drunk on the "authority" status you seem to enjoy here.

Just my thoughts, for what they are worth... partly expressed in the hope that others reading won't feel bound to the idea that, for instance, "for virtually any odd jacket combo you can think of, it's not just that a blue shirt would be better but that a white shirt is wrong," among others.

While much of what SF espouses is solid advice and useful knowledge, the tendency toward group-think here is a quadrillion bajillion units of group-think tendency (pretty high).

 

lol! This is both venomous and tactful. Well done.

 

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I didn't read what the other guy wrote as a code. I just blew off the parts that I didn't like as one man's opinion. Maybe I haven't been here long enough to be infuriated, hahaha

post #386 of 522
Yuppie, raw facts will always outweigh opinion but on SF, some peoples opinions are better than most peoples facts, and at the very least, they provide an awful lot of fun to an otherwise boring forum. Perhaps it will enhance your enjoyment of the forum to, not so much lower, but broaden your expectations. When differences arise, think of it as professional wrestling smile.gif
post #387 of 522
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post

Yuppie, raw facts will always outweigh opinion but on SF, some peoples opinions are better than most peoples facts, and at the very least, they provide an awful lot of fun to an otherwise boring forum. Perhaps it will enhance your enjoyment of the forum to, not so much lower, but broaden your expectations. When differences arise, think of it as professional wrestling smile.gif

You mean like this:
post #388 of 522
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Which parts to you disagree with?

I'll tick off the parts that I think people should evaluate as Manton's opinion, and not feel compelled to follow. For reference, I do think there are rules. I think brown shoes with a black suit is a failure, or even a black suit to a business meeting (ex Asia) is a failure.

1) White is not a country shirt.// - Situational, you don't have to be pheasant hunting. But I get what he's going for here.

2) White is almost never good with an odd jacket (etc).// - Completely disagree. Many odd jackets (solid or patterned) can look great with a white shirt. If the objective is to pursue maximum subtlety, a blue shirt might accomplish that goal, but higher contrast in various situations (day or night) will often look good.

3) So does work with white? Certain very pale (I mean VERY pale, so pale it takes a second to recognize what they really are) golds and greens.// - What?

4) Suits should be blue or gray. Tan with white is an "advanced" look that can be good but let's leave that aside for now. Blue or gray. Dark suit, white shirt and dark tie is a great formal evening look. But if you are not going out, make the tie lighter than the suit. With a light suit and white shirt, wear a dark tie. Don’t wear a light suit, white shirt and light tie, or at least, be careful.// - What?

5) White shirts nearly always demand black shoes.// - Disagree.

Don't mean to start a war or anything, but I like the idea of exerting some influence opposite the things that I deem as SF group think. The variety of things that are quite nice and acceptable is much bigger than the set things that gets appreciated here.
post #389 of 522
These are pretty much all things I have followed even before Manton writing this. It just makes sense to me personally.
post #390 of 522
Yeah, some of these points are BS, IMO. White shirt merits black shoes? What... Planet...? My personal opinion is, that black shoes only work with a grey suit. That is not a rule but my opinion. Half of Manton's 'rules' are just opinions. Nothing wrong with that--just don't call them rules. Blue is better with odd jackets, IMO, but white is best with a navy SC paired with grey trousers--almost always.
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