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post #31 of 97
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

In my view, yes, although as with black tie, midnight blue may often be better. And take care that you aren't wearing orphaned items from black suits. Using non-suit fabrics helps.

I have a black hopsack blazer that I have retired since joining this forum. Maybe I should get it back out again.

I do like the idea of a DB or SB peak lapel jacket though. Anyone have any recommendations for about $500?
post #32 of 97
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It helps if it's got peak lapels or is one button. Try it out. The issue with black jacket is that you then need to find pants. Personally I'd prefer pants that aren't jeans. That leaves relatively few options. Patterned medium grey pants can look nice but that's too reminiscent of the stroller, which is daywear. I might even suggest trying to find a midnight blue corduroy.

For suggestions, I haven't seen it in person and wish it were darker and without a ticket pocket, but this may have some possibilities:

http://www.suitsupply.com/blue-jacket/C484,en_US,pd.html?start=9&cgid=Jackets

The silk gives some sheen, which is nice for the evening.
post #33 of 97
I will have to consider this. I am going on a cruise soon, so it might see some use. It would be nice to not be wearing office wear to dinner on casual and smart casual nights. I already have the formal nights covered.
post #34 of 97
Yeah I also have a black hopsack SC that is pretty much retired - actually always was - it was sold to me on B&S as "dark navy" and I didn't feel like going through the pissing match of returning it.

Perhaps I'll dust it off, pair with a white shirt and dark denim and black shoes, and see how it turns out. Needs chelseas I think.
post #35 of 97
I'm familiar with wanting to wear tailored clothing out to clubs etc - a tailored jacket with a shine to it does just feel right at night. Your dress shirts without a tie are definitely what's letting you down. You've admitted that the tie is the limit the crossing point before people ask why you're so dressed up. If you want to not wear a tie, you're better off just going with a tshirt here.

See Fuuma.

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post #36 of 97
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The tshirt just can't do...a step too far for me. Though if you're going to, vneck clearly far superior to crew. And respect for the shawl collar on Fuuma there.
post #37 of 97
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I should have added for emphasis: this thread isn't about finding me personally stuff to wear at night, it's about general suggestions and discussion for what to wear at night while trying to maintain at least something of the tradition of tailored clothing. In that vein, the pic of Fuuma shown by hendrix is a wonderful and valuable submission, so thank you. And I just want to note again how the shawl collar separates it from business wear.
post #38 of 97

What about footwear? I guess the idea is to avoid typical business shoes. Also, is there some kind of rule about no wing-tips at night? Is black the preferred color here or does brown work as well.

 

I have been considering getting these shoes (http://www.kentwang.com/shoes/benchgrade-plaintoe-balmoral.html) for use with formal evening wear, and am wondering if they are suitable for non-formal evening wear as well.

 

Also, what about shoes like this: http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF4135_1_40000000001_-1

Since they are semi-brogues, are they not suitable for evening? Should I stick to only wearing those in very casual situations, like jeans and no jacket?

post #39 of 97
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The KW definitely fine. The AEs, I'd say too much brogueing for evening. If you want to get adventurous, try some Belgian loafers. Rubinacci has a nice selection in their online store.
post #40 of 97
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Oh, and brown would definitely go against the intent of casual evening wear in my view
post #41 of 97
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

it's about general suggestions and discussion for what to wear at night while trying to maintain at least something of the tradition of tailored clothing.

It's definitely something I can identify with.

The train of thought for me goes:
I want to dress more formally than I would just lounging about.
A simple shirt tucked into pants just looks naked, not to mention like business casual, and you don't want to look like you're working.
You don't want to look inappropriately formal or like you're playing dress up.


I have found that t-shirt under a black or textured blazer hits that sweet spot for me, but i'm sure there are other ways of finding it.
I don't like the striped trousers.

I would suggest that you try a pink shirt instead of white. Blue looks like you're working, but pink retains some of the formality of white without looking like it's missing a tie.

I wonder, maybe a different collar on the shirt too. Or a patterned shirt - but not business patterned (no stripes etc), something a little more conceptual like this Jil Sander marble pattern:


Whatever the answer, I think the shirt is the main area to experiment on here.
post #42 of 97
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

The KW definitely fine. The AEs, I'd say too much brogueing for evening. If you want to get adventurous, try some Belgian loafers. Rubinacci has a nice selection in their online store.


Thanks. I don't think I'm ready for the Belgian loafers. At least I'll be able to use the KW for something besides black tie. Apparently they aren't business-appropriate.

post #43 of 97
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Are those pants striped?
post #44 of 97
It is indeed a shawl collar dinner jacket (made of a linen-wool mix), I have a few dinner jackets in various weird configurations + black jackets in shiny fabrics, peak lapels or similarly non-businessey configurations that I wear with a white tee, white silk ps, black jeans or pants (often waxed) and white sneakers or black boots. Not sure that is very helpful to MCers wanting to bring their look to a suitable nightlife compromise so this will be my last post on that.

Two examples, sorry went quickly through party pictures so I look a little trashed.

Cord DJ w, peak satin lapels and half turnback cuffs.


Shawl collar DJ with beaded lapel
post #45 of 97
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Originally Posted by zbromer View Post

Are those pants striped?

It's a self-stripe that doesn't really show up irl unless you're right next to them. No stripe of any kind would be greatly preferred. Working on that.
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