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The Worst Look - Page 3post #31 of 3907/31/12 at 3:26pm
Styleforum Top Pickspost #32 of 3907/31/12 at 3:39pmQuote:The overheating of interiors causes many sartorial infelicities.Originally Posted by schrag
It's a terrible chain reaction...
Overly warm offices -> Ditch the jacket; No jacket -> Ditch the tie; No Tie -> Collar gets sloppy; BD collar -> Too casual for dress trousers; No dress trousers -> Khakis ... etc.Quote:Originally Posted by Balfour
...the path of least resistance to achieving a so-called 'casual' look (i.e. wear exactly the same but remove the tie).Quote:Originally Posted by edmorel
...guys wearing suits without ties.Quote:The loathsome suit-without-tie look has become a uniform - and it is much more a uniform without the tie as the tie gives colour and individuality.Originally Posted by porcelain monkey
I was in Paris last week and was quite surprised at the prevalence of this look on businessmen around the city. It seems to have become quite common in London as well.Quote:Excellent! You've hit the nail on the head.Originally Posted by Geezer
I cannot stand the suit with no tie...Not wearing a tie does not transform you into some kind of free-spirited trendy progressive radical who is down wiv da kidz. Especially when you put a tie on as soon as someone important is coming by or you have a job interview...Quote:Good for you - if only there were many more such victories!Originally Posted by Geezer
...I recently employed someone who is in almost all respects excellent. Clever, knowledgeable, personable, enthusiastic, etc. The first couple of days he turned up in a suit with no tie - well, it is what passes for summer, I suppose. On day 3, I tell him that he and I are wanted for an unscheduled meeting in ten minutes with someone very important. He starts putting his papers together and finding his pen. I cannot resist saying "Put a tie on, please, we're at work". He did, and has worn a tie every day since. A small victory.post #33 of 3907/31/12 at 3:44pmpost #34 of 3907/31/12 at 4:09pmpost #35 of 3907/31/12 at 4:53pmQuote:Originally Posted by HansderHund
Great thread. Here, office attire has become very casual. Many that don't interact with customers/clients wear jeans. Those in finance do wear proper business attire, though I see the short sleeve button down with a suit in the summer (terrible).
Though it's become casual, I have noticed a number of people still choose to dress better to work. For many, I believe, it's for their pride/hobby. Spanish offices are, on the whole, more business-like than here. My Spanish colleagues generally don't dress down to work.
I'm not a jeans guy myself, but a well-fitting pair of jeans can look better than a floppy set of chinos.post #36 of 3907/31/12 at 4:53pmpost #37 of 3907/31/12 at 5:16pmBlack shirt and some and any variety of khaki pants ranging from off white to British tan to nearly olive. Or black pants.
The company thinks it presents management in a "sporty" image in our retail venue. They want us in knit polos but so far seem to have no objection to the dress shirts having not specifically prohibiting them..post #38 of 3907/31/12 at 5:35pmFunny no one has mentioned the most annoying of comments when wearing a sport coat, "Nice suit." Aaaarghhhh! Just because you wear a blazer or sport coat, or even an unstructured jacket that has some form of lapel, people call it a "suit". Jeebus.
The worst offenders aren't men though. At least the sad sack business casual look is fairly consistent. But women generally don't know what they're doing and I'm tired of seeing "matching" = "cute style" LAME. Just because red and red are the same color doesn't mean you need to wear all red ffs.post #39 of 3907/31/12 at 6:06pmpost #40 of 3907/31/12 at 6:09pmQuote:Originally Posted by celery
Funny no one has mentioned the most annoying of comments when wearing a sport coat, "Nice suit." Aaaarghhhh! Just because you wear a blazer or sport coat, or even an unstructured jacket that has some form of lapel, people call it a "suit". Jeebus.
The worst offenders aren't men though. At least the sad sack business casual look is fairly consistent. But women generally don't know what they're doing and I'm tired of seeing "matching" = "cute style" LAME. Just because red and red are the same color doesn't mean you need to wear all red ffs.
I'm actually sick of getting shit from women at the office for -not- matching.
"Blue and grey don't match."
"You have to wear black socks if you wear black shoes."
Generally speaking, most women have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to men's style. You don't want to dress in a way that is blatantly unappealing to women, but at the same time, totally pandering to their notions of style would have you dressing like a Jersey guido in matching black Armani suit, shirt, tie, and shoes. (Or, at the very least, in all dark colors. Women seem to have a strong preference for dark colors over lighter colors, blacks over browns, etc.).
Women on the coasts are more stylistically adept than women in flyover country, but not by a huge margin.post #41 of 3907/31/12 at 6:32pmpost #42 of 3907/31/12 at 7:47pmpost #43 of 3907/31/12 at 8:41pmQuote:Originally Posted by bourbonbasted
Down here in the South "business casual" is interpreted as an invite to wear a Dri-Fit polo from some obscure country club tucked into deep double pleated khakis with a steel tipped belt and some flavor of Rockport-inspired footwear. Not to mention that all of these ensembles are, more often than not, accompanied by some flavor of sport/fishing sunglasses and croakies.
At least up North they have some hint of "office" to their attire. Down here everyone looks like they are popping into the office in between rounds.
Real alphas wear New Balance or Vibram 5 Fingers for business casual and business formal.post #44 of 3907/31/12 at 9:21pmpost #45 of 3907/31/12 at 9:58pmQuote:
Very much the same with me, I've never had an occupation that required a suit. Kept one for job interviews and my sister's wedding, I think that was it. I've often worn tailored jackets and blazers though. TBH the only time I see a suits been worn around these parts is during Spring Festival(usually shiny ones) of if people work in a bank(staff issue suits).
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