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post #136 of 389
A lot of gay men that I know seem to have really big, outspoken opinions on how one should dress, however don't follow their own advice either, (nor should they).
post #137 of 389

It's funny that you mention it, but my wife is far more likely to ask me for clothing advice than the other way around.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

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Discuss.

I like every item here separately...together, not so much.

post #139 of 389
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Originally Posted by pocketsquareguy View Post

I know i am in the minority here but I have no problem with a solid colored navy or tan suit with a white or blue solid shirt and a pocket square without a tie.
But, I can't stand a patterned suit with white or blue solid shirt. It seems so incomplete.

I'm with you man. Suit and no tie can be a cool look - one that I often sport on evenings to be fair, rather than in the office. Evenings out after work generally makes me want to drop the tie and take the formality level down a notch. This is a longstanding tradition of the suited office worker and I intend to carry it to the next generation.

Sport coat with no tie is my go-to version of business casual.
post #140 of 389
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the less formal the suit, the better this looks. Linen it's not bad, but dark worsted? Much more problematic.
post #141 of 389
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

Down here in the South "business casual" is interpreted as an invite to wear a Dri-Fit polo from some obscure country club tucked into deep double pleated khakis with a steel tipped belt and some flavor of Rockport-inspired footwear. Not to mention that all of these ensembles are, more often than not, accompanied by some flavor of sport/fishing sunglasses and croakies.
At least up North they have some hint of "office" to their attire. Down here everyone looks like they are popping into the office in between rounds.

That's actually an understatement. I've been to weddings in "upscale" parts of town where half the people have shown up in shorts, polo-style t-shirt and sneakers - and they would wonder why I was wearing a sportjacket (without even a tie). Seriously.
post #142 of 389
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

Down here in the South "business casual" is interpreted as an invite to wear a Dri-Fit polo from some obscure country club tucked into deep double pleated khakis with a steel tipped belt and some flavor of Rockport-inspired footwear. Not to mention that all of these ensembles are, more often than not, accompanied by some flavor of sport/fishing sunglasses and croakies.
At least up North they have some hint of "office" to their attire. Down here everyone looks like they are popping into the office in between rounds.

Wow, dude. You hit the nail on the head 100%. I'm in the South, in a very old city, considered "charming," "classic," etc. Your description of business casual here is spot on. I work in an area of town that is basically the "Lawyers Row," so to speak. I can walk outside my office and see people who look like the better posters (at least from a few years ago) on WAYWRN. Go a street over, and it's all tourists, or business casual denizens in the get-up you described. The "Rockport-inspired footwear" part is the best.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Women and gay men are alike in this regard. Our culture tells them that good taste is a mark of femininity. So, lots of women and gay men tend to assume they have good taste.

That is a very interesting point.
post #143 of 389
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Just be glad you're not regularly subjected to NJ. I wore a pair of chinos, blue Oxford and a sportcoat, someone stopped me to ask me why I was 'so dressed up'. They not only look like hell, they feel it's their duty to drag everyone down with them.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

Down here in the South "business casual" is interpreted as an invite to wear a Dri-Fit polo from some obscure country club tucked into deep double pleated khakis with a steel tipped belt and some flavor of Rockport-inspired footwear. Not to mention that all of these ensembles are, more often than not, accompanied by some flavor of sport/fishing sunglasses and croakies.
At least up North they have some hint of "office" to their attire. Down here everyone looks like they are popping into the office in between rounds.

That's actually an understatement. I've been to weddings in "upscale" parts of town where half the people have shown up in shorts, polo-style t-shirt and sneakers - and they would wonder why I was wearing a sportjacket (without even a tie). Seriously.

I've worked in offices down here where I've worn jeans, sneakers and a COLLARLESS t-shirt with long sleeves and people have asked me why I'm so dressed up. I'm not kidding.
post #144 of 389
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Originally Posted by HansderHund View Post

Speaking of business casual, my wife's boss occasionally doesn't wear a bra. Needless to say, I assume she enjoys the attention. No one says anything though, so I suppose it's now office accepted.

Pics...
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Originally Posted by mkarim View Post

Pics...

Just imagine two tube socks filled with sand and tied around the chest.
post #146 of 389
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Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post


Nitpick: You forgot the sloppy crew neck undershirt
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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>> Is an undershirt ever appropriate in business attire? If yes ... when worn with an open collar, must the undershirt always be V-neck?  If no ... how would you deal with the perspiration?

post #147 of 389
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I agree. I said this in a different way a long time ago in a different thread and I was crucified.

That's because in this culture too, you're discouraged from thinking outside the box. Conformity makes it easier for the powers that be to achieve their goals.
post #148 of 389
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Originally Posted by scoredtx View Post


Of course you can wear an undershirt with business attire, but no one should be able to see it. A v-neck is necessary with an unbuttoned shirt. You can wear a v-neck with a buttoned shirt as well, but it is better if no one can see the outline through your shirt. This is where tight-fitting skin-colored moisture-wicking undershirts come in handy.
post #149 of 389
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Originally Posted by comrade View Post

I think that you are referring to " Strollers" : Dark gray to black jackets worn with striped
or (small) checked trousers, along with a pear gray or black vest (waistcoat). It was considered
semi-formal morning wear:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/182/1930sesquire0801tw6.jpg/sr=1
The guy on the left.

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

you do see that in old pics. I am not sure what to make of it. Three possibilities. One is that, a lot of what was in AA/Esky was stuff that actually was not practiced on the streets but was dreamed up by the editors and artists as a way to push the envelope. As I noted in another thread, you saw some stupid stuff that I KNOW was never done IRL, such as patent leather half brogues with white tie. Another possibility was that it happened but it was a fad that died fast, like the mess jacket fiasco of 1936. The third is that it was common then but has faded out.
Also note that when you see it in old pics the pants are ALWAYS flannel. It was rather common in those days to wear flannel suits separately, so maybe they extended it beyond solids.
In any event, it's been no go for many decades. I would not do it today.
This thread needs tutee.

I have a pair of flannel, charcoal gray trousers with small checks that I've been wearing for business casual. Is this a no-go?

I will also very occasionally wear a suit with no tie, but the shirt must be obviously casual. For example, in the evening I'll sometimes wear a charcoal gray suit with a blue/gray (small) paisley shirt. Under no circumstances will I wear a shirt that could be mistaken for a business shirt (solid, stripe, check or most plaids).

Edit: I'm really enjoying the forum recently, though the threads are exploding too fast for me to follow (Manton, you're on fire lately). The forum reminds me of "the good old days" that older posters sometimes lament.
post #150 of 389
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Tie and square are hideous, not just that they don't work together, they don't work simply.
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