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post #9811 of 12603

Can pinstripes be in good taste?

(Serious question. I don't see them worn much)

 

 

 

 

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post #9812 of 12603
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Originally Posted by Tirailleur1 View Post

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does this work Doc? 

This is great
post #9813 of 12603
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post


i dont appreciate that.

 

You know, I was thinking about your last one recently. It's obviously a classic look and I thought it was well executed, however I do have a caveat for it. I don't think a person should attempt it without a PS. I know you don't like wearing them, and I get that. However it just looks too flat and plain without at least a white linen square. Maybe it's the big dark mass of the suit that needs broken up. I dunno. Personally, if no PS I'd have preferred a patterned tie. 

post #9814 of 12603
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

This is great

I think it's great because:
  1. It's Tira and his incomparable swag stance.
  2. Based on the background, it it warm and bright and sunny and summery outside.

If I saw some random guy walking down the street of New York wearing that tie, I don't think I'd consider it tasteful. Tira pulls it off though for sure.
post #9815 of 12603
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Tira pulls it off though for sure.

 

I'm not so sure. I don't think it works any better than any other attempt at a bright yellow tie I've seen. Maybe with a lighter suit it would have worked, but it looks Trumpish to me as it is.

post #9816 of 12603
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

Can pinstripes be in good taste?
(Serious question. I don't see them worn much)
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Earlier in the thread, Manton et al. seemed in general agreement that pinstripes are only in good taste when grey or cream and spaced at least an inch apart. One of the many principles stated in this thread that shifted the way I look at things.
post #9817 of 12603
To be fair, I think an inch apart is pretty far for pinstripes. Definitely would agree that they would have to be at least a half inch, preferably more. Even then... Still not the world's biggest fan. I have one pinstripe suit that I rarely wear that I am thinking of trying to wear more, but it's hard to do anything very subtle with it.

Chalkstripes definitely--but that's another can of worms which has been discussed before and which I think can definitely be tasteful when done well.
post #9818 of 12603
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

I think it's great because:
  1. It's Tira and his incomparable swag stance.
  2. Based on the background, it it warm and bright and sunny and summery outside.

If I saw some random guy walking down the street of New York wearing that tie, I don't think I'd consider it tasteful. Tira pulls it off though for sure.

Sure, it looks great in its context (summer / tropical background), and because of the particular tinge of yellow. I'm not convinced it would look as good in a city business setting, that's true. However, I am not sure it looks good because it's Tirailleur, that would be taking away the credit deserved for putting together this outfit. Someone else wearing this well-fitting suit, good-looking shirt/tie combo and awesome shades would look good too.

FWIW, I don't see a milli-ounce of "Trump" here. Zero.
post #9819 of 12603
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

FWIW, I don't see a milli-ounce of "Trump" here. Zero.

 

I see at least 3 or 4 milli-ounces.

post #9820 of 12603
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

Sure, it looks great in its context (summer / tropical background), and because of the particular tinge of yellow. I'm not convinced it would look as good in a city business setting, that's true. However, I am not sure it looks good because it's Tirailleur, that would be taking away the credit deserved for putting together this outfit. Someone else wearing this well-fitting suit, good-looking shirt/tie combo and awesome shades would look good too.

To some degree, sure. But I do think it takes a certain air to be able to wear a tie like that without it looking like a prop. Tira has that air, that je ne sais quoi that can definitely pull this off and have it look non-chalant rather than studied and obvious.

Not taking any credit away from Tira for pulling together the outfit though. He definitely knew what he was doing, and he wears it very well.
post #9821 of 12603
I gotta disagree with you there. Having a certain air, to me, is simply saying "we are used to seeing x person dress in x way". Yes, Tir generally looks better when he messes up than most people on their best day, however it doesn't change the fact that I think this fit is a miss.
post #9822 of 12603
If an open, confident, gregarious, attractive man is wearing something a little louder, he might be able to make it look good. At the least, you are not focused on the one loud thing.

If a mousey, shy accountant (no insult to any accountants) is wearing the same thing, it is probably not going to work. You're going to wonder who he is trying to imitate and from what magazine or blog he got the idea.

Perhaps these are just stereotypes, or things we expect someone to wear. But it doesn't change the fact that some people can pull some things off that others of us cannot. Being confident in one's clothes is very important.

Tira has definitely had his fair share of fits that I did not like. But he can by and large wear things that I know I never could without it looking like costume.
post #9823 of 12603

Claghorn, I'm afraid I'm not a fan of the fancy stripes on worsted. I don't really love striped worsted in general (striped flannel is alright, though), but fancy stripes on worsted are too Hong Kong for me. I have a gray/light gray/burg stripe flannel DB which is cool because of how far it is from quiet good taste. devil.gif

 

I'm not liking the twill-on-twill with the shirt and the tie. Lose the burg stripe in the suit, and make one of the two a different weave, and change a weave or two, and I think you've got it well in hand.

 

RE stripe width, I could have sworn Manton said something about width that precluded really narrow stripes, but I could have sworn his number was in the half-inch range. Isn't an inch a borderline chalkstripe?

 

The idea of something being cool because it isn't quietly tasteful is what makes Tira's rig work, I think. It works because of the bright sun and (presumably) social setting. Clothes are an expression of personality, more than anything else.

post #9824 of 12603
Then it belongs in WAYWRN, yes?
post #9825 of 12603

I've always assumed that good taste, as far as this thread was concerned, could be something that could be rigged up on a dummy torso and look good/tasteful/whateva

 

(A general comment. Being in good taste--sartorially, at least--has never been a concern of mine. Somehow, I suspect it concerns Tira less)

 

(though interesting about pinstripes)

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