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I don't care for the brown/navy combo, at least as it comes off in the photo.

In the latter pic I actually don't mind the pant/jacket combo (what manton calls the California tux iirc), but the pant/shirt combo is no good--especially if you ever took off the jacket. Not that this matters, since you said it was only a photo to show the fit. It does fit pretty well, btw.
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Thanks! Getting the sleeves slimmed a tad, rotated a bit, and button point dropped.5-1cm on the next MTM.

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I'm going to disagree or rather, offer a differing point of view. I don't believe that linen is only a summer fabric or that the tie is a winter only tie (full disclosure, that is one of my ties). Linen is a wonderful shirt fabric to wear year round. Ideally, a cotton/linen blend for a shirt. The texture of the fabric looks great against cotton, worsted, silk or flannel jackets. One of my favorite combo's is a flannel suit and linen/cotton shirt. By the same token, while there are obvious season specific ties (a heavyweight wool or cashmere looks silly in the summer), that tie can be worn year round and works just as well adding a little color to a somber flannel winter outfit, as it does toning down a louder summer outfit. To me its not so much about the season but rather how the fabric textures and colors compliment one another. You can wear cashmere or wool ties in the summer easily if they are of the appropriate color/finish. You should also try wearing linen (shirts/ties) with flannel, it looks great.

 

You just gave me an excuse to wear my much loved madder ties in summer. lookaround.gif

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Weekend in San Francisco.


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Nice fit.
But is it really that cold in SF in the summer?
Isn't California the sunshine state ;-)
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Highs in SF are 18-19 right now. We warm up in the early Fall.
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Hi David-  grenadine probs arise for me when my nails aren't properly manicured -   stray nail edges are deadly 

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Grenadines are indeed a loose weave and should be kept away from sharp edges and velcro as should all loose weaves.

As far as pilling type wear I don't see too much of that with grenadines unless a tight knot is used.

Pulls can be fixed by pushing them back into the silk - not cutting. Sometimes it is easy and sometimes challenging - we use a large needle.

Recently I took a new piece of grenadine silk and tried to get a pull dozens of times as an experiment without success. i was doing this as I was going to make a grenadine repair video.

I have also worn a couple of my favorite grenadines (one is black) for years with little or no problems.

So I am not sure if the pulling problems are across the board an issue and the larger and smaller weaves seem to be roughly equal in terms of durability.

 

 

 

 

+1 on the linen tie as an all-season wonder.   key thing about linen is its dryness and light absorption-  really sucks it up, the perfect antidote to shiny silks, & great if you're going for subtle and subdued.  IME linen also keeps its shape better than wools, grenadines and other woven ties, and because it folds flatter doesn't have any of the lumpiness of some 6/7 folds in other materials, especially grenadine. 

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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

I'm going to disagree or rather, offer a differing point of view. I don't believe that linen is only a summer fabric or that the tie is a winter only tie (full disclosure, that is one of my ties). Linen is a wonderful shirt fabric to wear year round. Ideally, a cotton/linen blend for a shirt. The texture of the fabric looks great against cotton, worsted, silk or flannel jackets. One of my favorite combo's is a flannel suit and linen/cotton shirt. By the same token, while there are obvious season specific ties (a heavyweight wool or cashmere looks silly in the summer), that tie can be worn year round and works just as well adding a little color to a somber flannel winter outfit, as it does toning down a louder summer outfit. To me its not so much about the season but rather how the fabric textures and colors compliment one another. You can wear cashmere or wool ties in the summer easily if they are of the appropriate color/finish. You should also try wearing linen (shirts/ties) with flannel, it looks great.
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i do not love it. the linen. that is all. fire away.
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i do not love it. the linen. that is all. fire away.

You don't love linen? Fire away at what? I don't get this.

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If you like linen, Michael Alden of the London Lounge has some beautiful pure linen shirt fabrics that are crisp and finely finished enough to be worn outside of summer.  He designed them to have the look and formality of cotton shirting, while being as breathable as linen.  

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I would not wear 100% linen shirts outside of summer (not that it's wrong, it's a personal thing) but wouldn't have a problem wearing linen-cotton year round...

 

The key factors Pliny has mentioned about linen ties are true, but I still prefer madder as a F/W tie - has those very same qualities and looks more "seasonal" IMO. Again, I don't mean to say linen ties are "wrong" outside of S/S, I just think madder is a better option. Or you can just wear both tounge.gif

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Linen ties, squares etc  or linen in general?  Now u mention it I don't recall seeing you much in linen, but re: ties - u have an appreciation for textured fits, and you've posted some nice contrasting ones.  linen to me is another texture option. In winter there's cashmere and wool, but in summer  it's linen, cotton or shantung for low-sheen.

 

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i do not love it. the linen. that is all. fire away.
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How much fail is in here?

 

 

 

 

 

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You don't love linen? Fire away at what? I don't get this.

Correct. I was anticipating backlash for my stance.

Pliny - linen ties i dont mind, and they do provide nice texture. Linen blend shirts or shorts i can deal with. Its mainly all linen suits, pants and shirts i cant manage.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonSox View Post

If you like linen, Michael Alden of the London Lounge has some beautiful pure linen shirt fabrics that are crisp and finely finished enough to be worn outside of summer.  He designed them to have the look and formality of cotton shirting, while being as breathable as linen.  

Thank you!

 

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Correct. I was anticipating backlash for my stance.

Pliny - linen ties i dont mind, and they do provide nice texture. Linen blend shirts or shorts i can deal with. Its mainly all linen suits, pants and shirts i cant manage.

I'm actually considering buying a linen MTM suit. I don't really own suits as I don't have much of a need for them and virtually any place I can wear a suit to, I can wear a SC or blazer instead. But the linen suit would be nice to wear as a separate. Get a khaki linen suit and I can wear the pants and jacket separate. I'm understanding the dislike on linen pants recently though. Mine stretch in the knees and get a rise there as I stand up. It removes the crease and gives a weird "bulge" (hah he said bulge) there. And the back seat stretches if I sit for too long and is left looking like a bit of a diaper. But, it being AZ, I may make do with 3 pair. Brown, off-white and khaki.

 

Shirts - I've recently decided to go with all summer-esque shirts. Meaning, all somewhat linen. I like the give from the shirt, the casual feel, and the fact that it will breathe. I need it.

 

SC's - you don't like a good linen sport coat? GTFO.

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