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How the gigolo business these days?

(I keed, I keed)

 

Ah, so it was your tie.

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I usually don't like ties with woven geometric patterns, and those big squares are ugly IMO smile.gif

 

I seriously doubt anyone in this thread would find that a nice tie. I heartily recommend getting rid of it fing02[1].gif

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StyleForum Tietiquette 101:
Encouraged:
- Grenadines
- Tussah
- Solid and printed challis
- Madder paisley
- Macclesfield prints
- Knits

Approved
- Satin
- Reppe
- Pindots
- Small, woven patterns (PoW, gingham, etc.)

Burn:
All others.
post #9334 of 13589
i really really try and be nice around here, but that tie is hideous. a lesson i learned long ago, the brand doesnt matter. even the fanciest brand make hideous pieces. so dont use the brand in your defense. its an ugly tie. period. why? because it is.

the shirt color is not terrible, but the collar points are impossible with a tie. wear sans tie in a casual context at most.

the PS looks like it think its the eiffel tower. and due to its rather dark and bold green, might be best suited in a khaki casual SC with no tie.

the suit is ok.

forgive my harshness.
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^^^ +1. Especially the part about all brands making hideous things.
post #9336 of 13589
Word. Drakes has some beautifully made, hideous ties.
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BTW, UrbanComposition, is that a Kent Wang "Great Wave" hanky? I'm really having a hard time using it, perhaps because I always tend to show the white and blue parts and that's too matchy with my usual ensembles. Maybe showing more of the cream parts, as you do (if yours happens to be that hank), would make it more suitable.

post #9338 of 13589
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Word. Drakes has some beautifully made, hideous ties.

Word.
post #9339 of 13589
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Word. Drakes has some beautifully made, hideous ties.

I've noticed this. 

 

Someone in the Ask Anything thread posted a fit. I said he needed to put down the shiny Dillards tie. He took a picture of the Drakes label and uploaded it. :-X

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All the above posters are right, the tie is no bueno and a brand name doesn't guarantee quality. However more can be said:

 

1) The tie is two ties. Look at the pattern you have a rep stripe imposed over a geometric pattern. Both patterns individually could be a separate tie and should be. This is kind like the tie equivalent of the dreaded hybrid shoe. (ex:http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF1951_1_40000000001_-1) Trying to be two things at once hardly ever works.

 

2) The tie is too busy.You might be able to tell just by looking at it which is probably why the posters above dismissed it out of hand and assumed that merely drawing attention to it would be enough to dismiss it. However for those working in environments where a tie is outstanding merely for being a tie, and where the quality of construction and material in a Paul Smith tie lends it a more sophisticated air than the crumpled florescent red rag bought at khols the ability to recognize what is off about the tie will be understandably unexercised. If you look at the geometric pattern, ignoring the rep stripe imposed on it all together you will notice a few signs of a tie that is too busy.                        

                  a. The basic unit of the pattern, the square shape formed by the lines, is rather large, the larger a pattern is the more distracting it is, and also, generally speaking, less formal.

                  b. There are 'lines' going in all directions. The aformentioned squares create lines going vertical and horizontal. This is just fine. The squares also create lines going left diagonally and going right diagonally. Alone these are great but together they create confusion. The eye does not know where to go but knows the pattern is instructing it somewhere. Ideally a good tie will have a more sedate (don't read sedate as boring) pattern  all owing the eye to follow up the slant of the tie towards your face. 
                  c. The tie is an optical illusion. Literally. The vertical-horizontal square and the the diagonal square compete to be seen as the true pattern. The split-second it takes to force orientation upon the tie is disorienting. (And remember, this is even before we take the rep stripe into account).

 

3) Faded black and gold looks drab against a grey suit. There is neither an enlivening brightness or a rich depth of a darker shade. I don't mean you need to add buckets of color to a grey business suit, but I'd venture that even a navy grenadine would add a freshness that this tie, for all its silken luster is lacking.

TL;DR version
1) The tie should only have one pattern.
2) The dominant pattern in the tie is too busy.
3) The color scheme is drab (and you should try a navy grenadine).

 

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Word. Drakes has some beautifully made, hideous ties.

Word.

MY. EYES.

post #9342 of 13589

Sweet. Velcro.

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Missing a linen PS that I don't yet own (ordering one soon). Just got this shirt today and wanted to give it a go. 

Tie is brown with light blue dot, navy blazer, blue stripe unfused shirt. 

post #9344 of 13589
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i really really try and be nice around here, but that tie is hideous. a lesson i learned long ago, the brand doesnt matter. even the fanciest brand make hideous pieces. so dont use the brand in your defense. its an ugly tie. period. why? because it is.

the shirt color is not terrible, but the collar points are impossible with a tie. wear sans tie in a casual context at most.

the PS looks like it think its the eiffel tower. and due to its rather dark and bold green, might be best suited in a khaki casual SC with no tie.

the suit is ok.

forgive my harshness.

When Stitchy has to dish out some tough love you know it was bad.

I think your problem is picking a lot of things that you happen to like and throwing them together. Your second - and possibly worse - problem is that you like things that are, by themselves, pretty bad.

The optical illusion tie has been covered. Silver ties don't go with orange shirts. Nothing (dressy) goes with orange shirts.

The colors of the square are bad and unrelated to the rest of the outfit enough that making it all the more obvious with that cheesy fold is whatever the negative equivalent of the icing on the cake.

But yea.

[Here's where I'm supposed to say something nice so that I don't look like a jerk but I can't think of anything]

Oh yea. Your shirt appears to be buttoned correctly.
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Word.

Wow.

I thought they, of all people, would know better...
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