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Not that you didn't look great, stitch, but I'll state again my belief that compliments are more a function of how odd or conspicuous something is rather than how good it looks. So to me it's just further proof that people recognize the DB as being different.
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I noticed double breasted suits well before I had any knowledge about, or interest in, clothes. I think the average person just sees it as an odd garment that serves a similar function to a normal jacket but is fundamentally different. It's like if 99.999% of people on the road were driving 4 door sedans, wearing a DB is like driving a hummer. Don't need to know much about cars to see the hummer as unusual.
post #8118 of 12818
But what would Leo do?

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Here is an attempt at a knit tie with an odd jacket.

 

post #8120 of 12818
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E.g., Truman wore DB almost exclusively. Ike occasionally. JFK, LBJ, never. Nixon when he was a congressman, senator and VP, quite often. But as president, never. Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush !, never. Clinton wore it sometimes in his 2nd term (maybe 10% of the time?). Bush II and Obama, never.

There's no question that DB's have been out of "fashion" in the US since the '50's. I can't remember the last time that a mainstream RTW company featured them. But that's more or less true about pocket squares, hats and other clothing and accessories frequently discussed on this board. I have been at firms with anywhere from 100 to over 1000 lawyers and I rarely see anyone wearing any of those things. However I wear DB's often and at this point peolpe don't even take a second look because thay are used to seeing me wearing them. OTOH, I have never gotten used to wearing pocket aquares on a regular basis, in part, because I find them to be too much of a hassle, but also because at times they feel like costume on me. In any event , I'm not sure that dressing more fastidiously than most has ever helped or hurt me in my career.
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Pocket squares are "back" at least in NY. I see them all over these days and have for the past two years.

Hats never went away completely, there has always been a core of devotees that kept them alive, plus, being worn exclusively outdoors, they don't have the same discombobulating effect on co-workers that DB has.
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But what would Leo do? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Well Leo is just a BAMF and can do whatever he damn well pleases, so his example doesn't count.

If I was Chief of Staff, I'd wear a DB whenever I wanted. It's senior enough that no one will question you, and yet not public enough that it becomes a political "everyman" issue problem.
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Pocket squares are "back" at least in NY. I see them all over these days and have for the past two years.

Hats never went away completely, there has always been a core of devotees that kept them alive, plus, being worn exclusively outdoors, they don't have the same discombobulating effect on co-workers that DB has.

Maybe we run in different circles. LOL. But even when I go to NYC to eat/ and/or shop, which is at least a weekly event, I don't see much of any of this stuff. Even traditional overcoats have been replaced to some extent by trenchcoats, Barbours or some substitute. I love ovrcoats and continue to make them up, but if my choices were determined by need, I would have stopped long ago.
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Pocket squares are "back" at least in NY. I see them all over these days and have for the past two years.

Hats never went away completely, there has always been a core of devotees that kept them alive, plus, being worn exclusively outdoors, they don't have the same discombobulating effect on co-workers that DB has.

Manton, I have a full-length navy cotton raincoat that doubles as an overcoat (single breast, button front) with a zip-out lining, a bit of it can be seen below. I have been considering getting a hat to wear with it to combat the elements in lieu of carrying an umbrella. What would you recommend?

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Dopey or another regular hat wearer shoud weigh in but as a general matter I would not try to coordinate your hat with your outerwear but rather with your suit and shoes.
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Dopey or another regular hat wearer shoud weigh in but as a general matter I would not try to coordinate your hate with your outerwear but rather with your suit and shoes.
I think coordinating hats with shoes gets you deep into "dresser" territory, though I suppose that if you are wearing a hat today, you are probably most of the way there (and that is where NORE wants to be, anyway). I don't know what you should do. I would like to say that I choose a hat based on the overcoat I am wearing, but, in truth, I mostly wear mid gray hats and vary the weight based on season, so there is not that much color coordination going on with me. If I am wearing a tweed suit and no overcoat, I sometimes wear a brown porkpie (unless I am wearing a cap). If I am wearing dress clothes, or near dress-clothes, I might wear a black Homburg (whether with a camel overcoat or navy). It would not be inaccurate to say that I vary my hats about as much as my overcoats, which is, to say, really not that much.
Summertime, I wear a Panama with everything.
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Not that you didn't look great, stitch, but I'll state again my belief that compliments are more a function of how odd or conspicuous something is rather than how good it looks. So to me it's just further proof that people recognize the DB as being different.


i do not disagree at all. i only meant that it did not bring me negative attention as far as i could tell.
post #8128 of 12818
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not try to coordinate your hate with your outerwear but rather with your suit and shoes.

Rawr. Me is destroy suit and shoes.

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I think coordinating hats with shoes gets you deep into "dresser" territory, though I suppose that if you are wearing a hat today, you are probably most of the way there (and that is where NORE wants to be, anyway). I don't know what you should do. I would like to say that I choose a hat based on the overcoat I am wearing, but, in truth, I mostly wear mid gray hats and vary the weight based on season, so there is not that much color coordination going on with me. If I am wearing a tweed suit and no overcoat, I sometimes wear a brown porkpie (unless I am wearing a cap). If I am wearing dress clothes, or near dress-clothes, I might wear a black Homburg (whether with a camel overcoat or navy). It would not be inaccurate to say that I vary my hats about as much as my overcoats, which is, to say, really not that much.
Summertime, I wear a Panama with everything.

I was thinking more in line of something I wouldn't mind getting wet in a light rain. I wear a cap with tweed jackets but those still require an umbrella. I'm thinking like in the movies when you see the gent with the raincoat and hat and no umbrella. Something to grab strictly when it's raining or going to rain. Not necessarily to coordinate although if I can nail down the hat type and name with which to perform a search, I would most likely choose navy if available.

Thanks.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but quality hat felt is virtually waterproof, no? However, I understand that a really good hat can cost a lot of money. Optimo is like $750, I think.
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