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post #7261 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

it's about how to dress like Mariano Rubinacci.

WWMW?

-or-

WMWT?

Genius, because now Victor can do the Luca thread.
post #7262 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

"according to the standards of Style Forvm groupthink as established by a dozen or so members who mostly agree on everything."

I don't think this can get any clearer - plus I appreciate the use of the "v" here.
post #7263 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Not really, the hank is important because the eye sees all four elements -- shirt, tie, jacket and square -- at once, in the same image. You typically have to look down to see the shoes and most people, most of the time, don't bother.

I always look down, or rather look before I have to look down. Shoes can make or break any fit. Hanks? Who cares.
post #7264 of 12577
Thread Starter 
The hank can kill it easier than the shoes. The hank is always in the field of vision as you interact with a person. If it sucks, nothing works.

I like shoes too, but don't be obtuse.
post #7265 of 12577
We live in different worlds. Obtuse wasn't necessary.
post #7266 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post

@mafoofan: question, with no intentions to bother you or something like that, but my sister arrived from Vegas yesterday, and she bought me a pocket square, but it's cotton... how should I fold (or not fold) that?

Tell her to buy a cream silk square next time...foo.gif
post #7267 of 12577
Victor is right, it is really kind of a fool's errand to evaluate how tasteful a fit is looking at crappy closeups of ties, pocket squares, jackets and shirts without a larger context. That said, Manton's scope in this thread has been made abundantly clear.

Also, it's not really that hard to take a full body pic that gets the point across with a camera phone (even if falls substantially short of Victor's professional modeling photo shoots which make so many of you so horny). For those of you who complain about not having enough time, and yada yada yada, you probably post too much here anyway. Post less, take better pics. Stop trying to take photos in situations where you're concerned about getting caught by normal people.
post #7268 of 12577
Thread Starter 
well, it was.

Look, if your position is "hanks, who cares" then don't wear one. No hank is vastly better than a bad hank or a good hank ill chosen. it's like a grafitti tag on your chest if it doesn't work.

if you routinely check shoes, you are an outlier. most people don't.

this being "style" forum, everyone should of course wear good shoes. but the chest-neck region is the heart of any outfit and that's what we're trying to teach. Frankly, a man can get by with half a dozen shoes or less (ask foo!) and so long has he knows how to use them, which really boils down to how NOT to use them, he will be fine. Taking care of what's up top is a lot harder.
post #7269 of 12577
Thread Starter 
for me (and others, no doubt) the conversation is more fun than the laborious business of taking pics that strangers can bless as "acceptable." You can call me lazy, and I am, but if I am ever going to overcome that I will pour the energy into other vessels. SF is a timesink, a goof, not a job and not self-improvement.
post #7270 of 12577
Silence is better.

Carry on.
post #7271 of 12577
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Originally Posted by P-K-L View Post


Tell her to buy a cream silk square next time...foo.gif

 

I believe I will... but she's the kind of girl that thinks that black suit and black shirt is awesome... not much I can tell about that, but if I don't use the PS she gave, she will be offended easily. confused.gif

post #7272 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post

I believe I will... but she's the kind of girl that thinks that black suit and black shirt is awesome... not much I can tell about that, but if I don't use the PS she gave, she will be offended easily. confused.gif

the correct course of action is to dump her and as you are feeling out new paramours, ask them, "what do you think of this cream silk square?"
post #7273 of 12577
Tried something a little bit different today with a lighter tie, would be interested in opinions (tie is wool in case you can't tell):



(if it matters, it's a suit, shoes are shell wingtips in a #8-ish color)
post #7274 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

victor, I don't think you quite understand the purpose/spirit of this thread. All your frustrations are about things that are, strictly speaking, off topic.

This is about learning what constitutes good taste according to a certain tradition. From your pics, I can see that you sometimes do very well according to that standard and other times veer from it. Your pics are always well shot and your combinations are always thoughtful and coherent. But they aren't always "in good taste." If you want a definition of what I mean by the latter, it would be "according to the standards of Style Forvm groupthink as established by a dozen or so members who mostly agree on everything."

Motives for creating this thread is clear, I agree with them.

 

 

But I'm also for the fact that people would not mistaken, I think that the "good neck area" - this is enough.

 

Good neck area is necessary. This is a fact.

 

But this fact is clearly not good enough without the support of quality and knowledge in all other respects. Also a fact.

 

I just wish that people would realize this is not mistaken

 

Therefore, this thread is good only for a basic understanding of "good neck area," not "good taste as a whole."

 

And should always remember that the "neck area" - only part of good taste, and to look good, we must first learn how to work with the zone, but also work to improve the many, many other aspects.

 

And not given to self-deception: "My neck area is gorgeous, that's enough" rotflmao.gif

 

When bad landing jacket (for example) the effort of "neck area" useless for clothing will all still look like a potato sack.

Simply, it will match the color (in the upper part) potato sack ... biggrin.gif

 

 

In general - this thread is necessary, but not sufficient.

 

It is important that everyone understands this.

 

 

Amen!

post #7275 of 12577
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Not really, the hank is important because the eye sees all four elements -- shirt, tie, jacket and square -- at once, in the same image. You typically have to look down to see the shoes and most people, most of the time, don't bother.

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

The hank can kill it easier than the shoes. The hank is always in the field of vision as you interact with a person. If it sucks, nothing works.

I like shoes too, but don't be obtuse.

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We live in different worlds. Obtuse wasn't necessary.
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Originally Posted by Red 
I have no idea to this day what those two Italian ladies were singing about. Truth is, I don't want to know. Some things are best left unsaid. I'd like to think they were singing about something so beautiful, it can't be expressed in words, and makes your heart ache because of it. I tell you, those voices soared higher and farther than anybody in a gray place dares to dream. It was like some beautiful bird flapped into our drab little cage and made those walls dissolve away, and for the briefest of moments, every last man in Shawshank felt free.

What's next, income tax advice? It's almost like this is a Netflix thread all up in here!
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