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post #6826 of 12602
I don't really like monks either, but if it'll give you peace of mind I guess you can send them to me...
post #6827 of 12602
If you've been wearing double monks since before #menswear was a thing, do you get a pass?
post #6828 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Willin View Post

Are double monks tasteful? They aren't my cup of tea but those do look nice.

I'm not a fan. But unlike Dopey, I'm not struck by their informality. I just realise that I happen to not like them.
post #6829 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post

I don't really like monks either, but if it'll give you peace of mind I guess you can send them to me...

I doubt you'd fit them. I wear a UK 6.5.
post #6830 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

I'm not a fan. But unlike Dopey, I'm not struck by their informality. I just realise that I happen to not like them.
I am not sure I said that. I think I said the design is pointless and the look contrived and unnecessarily flash. My dainite, scotch grain ones were kind of informal, though.
post #6831 of 12602
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

I doubt you'd fit them. I wear a UK 6.5.

In that case, may I say that they'll fit me?
post #6832 of 12602
There is indeed smth about double monks that makes them look ... nouveau riche in the style sense -- like one is trying too hard to be 'trendy'. It's worse when I see them with tight/slim trousers.

That's me trying to rationalize something as subjective as taste. Here's a more straightforward reply: Damn, they just don't look that nice when worn.
post #6833 of 12602
^ I guess that means I've been "trendy" since 1998 when I bought my Williams. Thing is, I didn't see many other pairs in the US until ten years later.

I understand the backlash, but I still like mine.
post #6834 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

this is really tough to argue with.
Well played.

indeed, it is a great look.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

That's kind of a strange question, though I appreciate how it fits into this thread. If you are referring to VictorSF's shoes, then, in my opinion, they are a good illustration of how wearing something "just because" contributes to the #menswear/pitti/more cowbell look. I don't like it. But it is not like you will be sent to jail for wearing it. It just looks like you are trying to be fashionable, which is no crime (except on this thread).
I am sure you can tell I am trying hard not to say "No, they aren't tasteful." I am sure there is a casual look in which they don't look contrived, but I can't think of it and, in any event, it is hard to get around the fundamental pointlessness of the design.

yes yes, but they are cool. wink.gif
post #6835 of 12602
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Originally Posted by FlaneurNYC View Post

^ I guess that means I've been "trendy" since 1998 when I bought my Williams. Thing is, I didn't see many other pairs in the US until ten years later.

I understand the backlash, but I still like mine.

You might have a point -- reminds me of what happened with Burberry. For those who do not know -- Burberry (monkstrap) was once the reserve of the well-dressed, until what in England, people called 'chavs' began to sport them everywhere, and wore shirts with the ubiquitous plaids (monkstrap). They were soon synonymous with the 'chavs' and people began to distance themselves from the brand (monkstrap). I think they had a whole re-branding exercise. Smth similar (but on a smaller scale) happened to Barbour.

Article here --

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4381140.stm

http://www.economist.com/node/17963363

'By the early 2000s the company's distinctive camel-coloured check had become the uniform of the “chav”, the stereotypical white working-class delinquent looking for trouble. Bouncers and taxi drivers learned to turn away young men sporting Burberry baseball caps and jackets. When Daniella Westbrook, a soap actress, was photographed with the Burberry check adorning herself, her daughter and her pushchair, the brand's elite reputation seemed to be lost'
post #6836 of 12602
I have a pair of captoe double monks, JL Derwent in brown buffalo calf, that I like a lot. It is the most versatile shoe I own and great for travelling. The monkstrap gives more support than loafers. Loafers just don't fit me well and I don't own any.
post #6837 of 12602
SF does not like dub munx = I am wearing mine tomorrow icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
Edited by ColdEyedPugilist - 2/25/13 at 6:11pm
post #6838 of 12602

I think upr_crust has some black double monks that look alright. Though I could be misremembering.

post #6839 of 12602
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

It is the most versatile shoe I own and great for travelling.

I see this argument being used often, but is it so?
Really, I do not see them as a versatile shoe. They're, in my opinion, too contrived with suits, no matter how casual is the suit, and hence they're not that versatile. However, a single monk is quite the opposite, too sleek to be worn without a tailored jacket.
When I try to conceive a truly versatile shoe no configuration seems to fit the bill. Any ideas?
Edited by Victor Elfo - 2/25/13 at 5:29pm
post #6840 of 12602
Is Barbour following in this? I'm starting to hear this. God Forbid.
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