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Starting to scrounge from my wardrobe as my long absence from home stretches my travel clothes to the limit. It will be great to get back home to my full collection. Two more week to go!

 

Foo me? Also interested in what manton thinks, mainly because he has never responded to me and I'd like to get one reply before I die. lol8[1].gif

 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

It has to do with the fit, not the cut. Since the waistcoat is a tight-fitting garment, a bad fit is easy to notice. Also, the length has to be just right. Most RTW waistcoats I see are too short.

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post #6528 of 13589
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Originally Posted by Jamesgatz View Post

Rules don't apply to Armoury guys per se, you mean.

They're clothing salesmen.

They have a reason for being a little flashy. They fact that they, overall, keep it fairly un-kitschy is what sets them apart.
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If anyone is trying to tell me he is looking good, but I may add if he loss some weight, he is going to look even better and healthier.
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post

A waistcoat is actually one of the best ways to control a rogue paunch or potbelly.

The curve of buttoned waistcoat highlights the difference between the chest and the waist, especially a good bespoke waistcoat is a close (not tight) fit garment.
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Originally Posted by mcbrown View Post

Exactly. A properly cut (i.e. sans ultra-low-rise trousers) three-piece suit is probably the absolute best thing a more, ahem, big-boned gentleman can wear.

Waistcoats shouldn't be worn by men with big bellies? What utter, utter nonsense.

That's stretching my words, I mean when you compare to healthy man in bespoke 3pc and bear belly guy in bespoke 3pc, in my opinion the healthy man will look better because everything is in proportion. But such does not mean the bear belly guy looks bad, it is just not as good as the healthy man.

Some of you guys need to stop kidding yourself. Even with money, wealth and power, bespoke doesn't make you look 'nicer' and 'healthier', it merely makes clothes that fits you well.
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Big bellies are a contributor. Without braces it can be hard to keep your pants up, esp if you have a belly. Also RTW makers can save money on fabric by making lower rise trousers.

I don't think braces are particularly beneficial to belly man, braces merely keeps the trouser on the user's waist, the comfort is both for slim and belly gents.
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

Some of you guys need to stop kidding yourself. Even with money, wealth and power, bespoke doesn't make you look 'nicer' and 'healthier', it merely makes clothes that fits you well.
I don't think braces are particularly beneficial to belly man, braces merely keeps the trouser on the user's waist, the comfort is both for slim and belly gents.

Obviously the trimmer figure will look better. But the question was whether larger men should avoid waistcoasts, to which my answer is no. Slim dudes will have an easier time keeping their pants at their waist with belt. Also, it won't look so bad at their hips. If you've got a belly, the belly is constantly pushing the trousers down, and once they get under the belly, it looks terrible.
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

I wonder why people like their trousers slung so low on their hips. There must be a reason -- and since it's definitely not more comfortable to do so, I wonder what.

I find low-rise pants much more comfortable than high-rise pants (within reason). Hate it when the shirt peeks out from below the buttoning point, however, so they are really only suitable with DB jackets, and to a lesser extent, SB jackets with a low button stance + almost closed quarters.
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

That's stretching my words

Really? You literally wrote the words "it is just ugly when someone with a belly tries to wear a waistcoat." What would you suggest they wear instead? Two piece suit? Trousers and odd jacket? Sweatpants? Muumuu?
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

I mean when you compare to healthy man in bespoke 3pc and bear belly guy in bespoke 3pc, in my opinion the healthy man will look better because everything is in proportion. But such does not mean the bear belly guy looks bad, it is just not as good as the healthy man.

Did we turn into a bunch of catty girls here? Never mind, don't answer that. Either way, this isn't about who wears it better, it's about how every man can look his best. I am thin but have fairly narrow shoulders - should I just hide away in shame because I don't look as good in a suit as a man with broader shoulders?

If you want to say that our dear President Taft could have stood to lose a few pounds, I don't think anyone will disagree. But even if a man of a certain size is losing weight, he needs to wear something until he attains what I presume is your more Adonis-like physique... again, what would you suggest instead?
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

Some of you guys need to stop kidding yourself. Even with money, wealth and power, bespoke doesn't make you look 'nicer' and 'healthier', it merely makes clothes that fits you well.

I doubt many of us have a dog in this fight - last I checked there were no regular StyFo contributors in President Taft's girth cohort. But either way, the bolded part is the whole point, isn't it? This is the "good taste thread" of StyleForum, not the "good abs thread" of Men's Health Forum.
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Being healthy and in good shape makes you look healthy and in good shape. teacha.gif
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I haven't reached 30 yet. It's not that I don't like three piece suits, but I rarely see someone my age pull them off decently.

 

 

Until I have come of age I will have to either resort to custom length ties or bring back the cummerbund as business appropriate office wear.


I finally feel good about pushing 44. Thank you my friend! fing02[1].gif


in another 6 years you can wear tassel loafers fing02[1].gif


Since when do you have to be old to wear tassels? I've recently been sporting my latest eBay bargain with raw denim, and have yet to turn 30.

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Tassel loafers with cuffed denim is an awful look.
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

cuffed denim is an awful look.

FTFY

Cuffing your jeans to show off that little red stripe is like leaving a button undone to show of your surgeon's cuffs. No one cares that your jeans are selvage.
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Dissent here, I think vests are a godsend to guys with big bellies. Taft would look much worse without his vest.
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Originally Posted by add911_11 View Post

That's stretching my words

Really? You literally wrote the words "it is just ugly when someone with a belly tries to wear a waistcoat." What would you suggest they wear instead? Two piece suit? Trousers and odd jacket? Sweatpants? Muumuu?

Well, obviously, generously bellied men shouldn't wear anything. add911_11 knows they should be too ashamed to show their hideous selves in public. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by EMartNJ View Post

cuffed denim is an awful look.

FTFY

Cuffing your jeans to show off that little red stripe is like leaving a button undone to show of your surgeon's cuffs. No one cares that your jeans are selvage.

I was cuffing my jeans decades before I'd ever heard of selvedge. I am certain that I am well within the mainstream on this point.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Well, obviously, generously bellied men shouldn't wear anything. add911_11 knows they should be too ashamed to show their hideous selves in public. rolleyes.gif
I was cuffing my jeans decades before I'd ever heard of selvedge. I am certain that I am well within the mainstream on this point.

I can't claim decades, but I always cuff the one pair of jeans I have when I eventually wear them..
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Dissent here, I think vests are a godsend to guys with big bellies. Taft would look much worse without his vest.

I think the majority opinion here is in line with you and unbel. Add seems to be the dissenting voice.
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I still have a large belly, but back when it was 2x larger, a waistcoat was indeed more flattering, if anything. Where the hell does the idea that it shouldn't be worn by fat people come from?

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