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post #6421 of 89382/15/13 at 4:20pmpost #6422 of 89382/15/13 at 4:21pm
+1 Color combination looks good as it appears on my computer monitor. Minor deductions on overall appearance b/c of tie--knot could be better, and it looks as though narrow end extends below wide end.post #6423 of 89382/15/13 at 4:24pmpost #6424 of 89382/15/13 at 4:24pmQuote:This is not good for many reasons. The colors of your tie, pocketsquare, and Isaia fanboy lapel pin are all loud and they all clash which each other---every single one. Wearing brand logos is not in good taste. I think turquoise is a garish color, which is aggravated by the very "wet" shine of the silk square. The ps is far over-poofed---I doubt you want to call as much attention to it as you are. It's hard to tell what's going on with your shirt because of the light, but it seems rather bright. So your tie is too dark to mediate between the light shirt and the dark suit. I think the tie is also too "country" for this suit, regardless of color and contrast. Did I miss anything?
Edited by mymil - 2/15/13 at 8:10pmpost #6425 of 89382/15/13 at 4:59pmpost #6426 of 89382/15/13 at 6:22pmQuote:pretty solidOriginally Posted by Mr. Pink
The dominant background color is actually the salmon, but the green/turquoise is fairly prominent. That's why I asked.
FYI, this isn't me. Its from the Alan See's blog and something I liked but never would have thought of, let alone done, so I was interested in your thoughts. Thanks for the commentary.
The great thing about this thread is that it has me thinking about how I dress. Much of the time, I'm on autopilot, a grey or blue suit, any blue or blue and white shirt, any blue or maybe grey tie, white linen pocket square, little thought about pattern or texture and none about saturation. Foo's commentary made me start thinking about these things. And since Foo is the most vocal of the knowledgeable posters, there's a tendency to try out his suggestions. As for the newly reviled cream silk square, I haven't taken mine out of the drawer two years, but I've tried it a number of times recently in response to Foo's advocacy. I'm wearing it today after deciding it was better than white linen.
Today:
Yesterday w/ default white linen:
Incidentally, that's the Minnis 520 I'm wearing today and the pic is fairly accurate on my monitor. Yesterday's suit was the hated by Manton Premier Cru which feels a little flimsy but barely wrinkled through a very long day.post #6427 of 89382/16/13 at 2:49amTQuote:This is great stuff. Only a men's forum would disect an outfit like this. Imagine this happening at a women's style forum - never.Originally Posted by mktitsworth
Actually, I just went through and computed the difference in brightness and contrast between the elements of the pocket sqare and the suit, and there's a pretty significan't difference. The suit averages out to somewhere around
a0 = {134, 138, 183};
in RGB and the main colors of the PS are
b0 = {79, 19, 73};
c0 = {160, 114, 117};
d0 = {217, 195, 208};
e0 = {60, 70, 97};
so computing the brightnesses yields
N[Mean[a0]]=151.667
N[Mean[b0]]=57.
N[Mean[c0]]=130.333
N[Mean[d0]]=206.667
N[Mean[e0]]=75.6667
with extremal differences in brightness of 55 and -94. Not insignificant distances in color space. Contrast is similar, with a mean contrast from the suit of 120.509 and extemum of 171 and 74. All in all, you're just wrong.post #6428 of 89382/16/13 at 4:57amQuote:Even though I get what you are saying, honestly I found tits's analysis a little tired and pointless. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, but something that makes a big difference in computer programming as far as color goes wont necessarily translate into a big difference to the eye. It probably doesn't even matter anyway because as SB noted, no one is looking at him in black and white. However as absurd as that is, I honestly saw what foo was talking about when he posted the b&w picture. So I guess my point is that foo's pointless point was better that tits's pointless point. Check out how many times I crammed "point" into that sentence. Badass.
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Quote:Originally Posted by mymil
This is not good for many reasons. The colors of your tie, pocketsquare, and Isaia fanboy lapel pin are all loud and they all clash which each other---every single one. Wearing brand logos is not in good taste. I think turquoise is a garish color, which is aggravated by the very "wet" shine of the silk square. The ps is far over-poofed---I doubt you want to call as much attention to it as you are. It's hard to tell what's going on with your shirt because of the light, but it seems rather bright. So your tie is too dark to mediate between the light shirt and the dark suit. I think the tie is also too "country" for this suit, regardless of color and contrast. Did I miss anything?Thank you for your comments. agree, the Isaia pin was a bit over the top. When I first took the picture, and then saw it, I was tempted to remove it because I knew what the reaction would be on SF. But, I wanted members to see the 'raw' image, if you will, and take my medicine.
The ps was a bit forced - The pattern on it was outlined by a purple line same as the shade in the tie. I guess I was hoping that that would tie them in together. Thank you for pointing out the 'wet' of the ps. What tie could I wear with that then. if any? Should it also be used for a lighter colored suit? I am new to ps' - still experimenting with different poofing methods. I'll get it someday

The shirt is actually a pale blue and white houndstooth patterned shirt - pattern being washed out due to poor ipad camera and photographic skills. Should the shirt be a bit darker or the color more intense?
I don't understand the tie being 'coountry'. Could you elaborate a bit please?
I do appreciate the comments, and would welcome more feedback. Could I just also ask for possible ways to improve it, changin maybe one or two items but leaving the rest?
Much appreciated.
post #6430 of 89382/16/13 at 9:00amHow the hell did you come to the conclusion that the plural of ps is ps'?
The tie is "country" because it features a large textured check pattern with brown/orange colours in it. Browns are country. Large checks are country. Texture isn't very city (it can be, but not when combined with the other aspects).
The PS should go with a lighter suit, yes. Also, it should be worn in the warmer months with other summery colours and/or summery fabrics. I.e., it shouldn't be worn with browns, dark oranges, etc. Also, too much PS is showing; you should never really have that much sticking up, but it is particularly important to avoid having so much of such a bright square on show.
Also, it would help if you could take clearer photos; and if you could learn to tie your tie a little better.
Finally, this thread isn't really the advice-for-neophytes thread. You would be better off posting questions like these in other threads. If you want general advice you'd do well to read a book by Flusser or Manton. Mafoofan's blog has an informative guide on coherent PS/tie combinations, so taking a look at that would be a good first step: www.tweedinthecity.com.
Edited by Loathing - 2/16/13 at 9:19ampost #6431 of 89382/16/13 at 9:23amQuote:Sorry, but this sort of riff-raff is what keeps disappointing the spirit of this 'good taste' thread to readers like myself, and I imagine to the members who have tried to be helpful.
This is not WAYWRN, although some members have started to treat it as such. This is simply not the place to post novice, garish outfits or to ask basic questions (the answers to which can easily be found by searching past discussions). I know you must be genuinely interested in learning and getting feedback, but if you have followed even just the last dozen pages of discussion, you can likely deduce that an ensemble with a loud pocket square bearing little to no coherence to the rest of the outfit, not to mention a brand pin, are far from good taste and does not belong here.
Quote:I think outfits posted here would greatly benefit from being accompanied by a few comments capturing why they think it is in or close to good taste. Ideally as a result they would refrain from posting if they cannot come up with a thoughtful explanation.
post #6432 of 89382/16/13 at 9:43amContrast is something you can play with. Sure, medium to high contrast is most foo(l)-proof, but I thought this was the advanced thread, not the highschool thread. And besides tone contrast, there's colour contrast (and textural contrast). Medium blues, greys and browns for instance can be great together and provide enough overall contrast. Even ton-sur-ton is possible. Try things out and see if it works.post #6433 of 89382/16/13 at 11:26ampost #6434 of 89382/16/13 at 11:33am- Manton
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