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dude, wtf.

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I could see Sofia Vergara rocking those pants. Rubinacci x Sofia Vergara x KMart?

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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

Yes. It's a paddock. I've toyed with the idea but my tailor believes it isn't as elegant. And after seeing so many people button two buttons on their coats (where only one is meant to be buttoned), I'm inclined to agree.

But that's because the buttons are not in a place where they are meant to be buttoned. Hence, not in good taste.

Also, I would indeed get it bespoke (dark blue herringbone odd jacket). I'm off to Hong Kong next week, so I'd be very happy with your opinions. Given the fact that I'd like to be able to wear it with a bow tie: 3 button or paddock?

Another real-life example:
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That guy's coat is bad, tbh. Have seen it on the Harrison's FB page. Look at the pulls at the buttoning points, strikes me as being too tight for him, though it could be because he's turning his body. Pockets also seem a little too low.

To my eye at least, it's too slim and there's no shape/silhouette/drape to speak of. Just accentuates his 'thinness', and his hips.

The illustration of the paddock coat on Gentleman's Gazette, however, is beautiful.

*Yes, you're right that those are cut for one to button, but it's easier to visualize, and it looked off even when I thought about how the buttons would be spaced closer, and higher up. And besides, I daresay that a majority of people might think that you did you buttons up wrongly, not that you might care of course.

Here are a couple pictures of the Duke. The Duke does pull them off, I think, but, well, I'm not going to attempt it.

Personal opinion -- 3B > Paddock. You have the height. Not the American-styled 3 roll (press) 2B, since it ruins the shape of the lapels. But, like I said, that's a personal opinion.




Edited by bboysdontcryy - 2/14/13 at 11:05am
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What exactly is the appeal of a paddock coat?
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

What exactly is the appeal of a paddock coat?

none but there are nice AA illustrations of it so.....................
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The only time I've seen a paddock coat I like is in the cartoons.

It doesn't do a nice job of appointing the belly...

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Thread Starter 
I recall someone posting that the reason JFK buttoned both buttons was to conceal his back brace, which makes some sense ...
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I recall someone posting that the reason JFK buttoned both buttons was to conceal his back brace, which makes some sense ...
Correct. It is more obvious in some pictures.
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I thought a Paddock coat was a style of overcoat?

Nothing wrong with 3 button jackets.

If well cut, they flatter.
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

Been following this conversation and this touches on something I was thinking as well. From my perspective, the perspective of a self proclaimed noob, I follow the advice of foo and the others because I am not advanced in these kinds of things yet. With anything that takes any effort or skill I find that it is best to emulate someone more accomplished and then, when you have enough experience in that, start to make your own tweeks and changes. I think that might be where a lot of people are and that might be a reason many emulate foo or manton or anyone else.

This, this, this! I noticed Foo speaks very highly of Will from ASW and his sense of style. I also noticed Will wears things I would think Foo NEVER to even consider to want to wear. He does not give the same advice Will does in a thread like this. He gives advice more "foo"lproof for the noob and the "I've had a full wardrobe for years" (that can't seem to put it together) alike.

The best thing I get from Foo, as a noob myself, is that practically all of his advice is centered around items a noob will likely NOT regret and will likely be able to be worn with most everything else in his early-stage wardrobe. A cream silk square--a staple if nothing else. Another item recommended by Foo I don't think anyone can regret buying.

With all that said, I still thoroughly enjoy reading the cases against Foo's opinions so that I can better explore what's being presented and come to a hopefully no-regrets conclusion I can be confident in....
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Originally Posted by Ivar View Post

Looks like a paddock suit:



http://www.gentlemansgazette.com/paddock-suit/

That looks like a true 3-button where they forgot the bottom button.

I though a paddock coat has the buttons shifted lower so that the area where a button would normally go is between the two paddock buttons.
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Not that it matters until I have to wear a back brace.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Final score: foo.gif
The first outfit is a big squareFAIL. The dominant or background color of your square should never match the color of your tie.

Final score: foo.gif

The dominant background color is actually the salmon, but the green/turquoise is fairly prominent. That's why I asked.
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

The second is very nice. Nothing wrong at all. The black knit tie is used very expertly here. Between it and the white of your shirt, you managed to fill in the brightness spectrum very effectively with the dark grey of your suit, navy blue of your square, and cherry red shirt stripes. Great use of three patterns too--everyone please note that the reason it works is because the pattern density varies between them. I wish I'd come up with this outfit myself.

Final score: foo.giffoo.giffoo.giffoo.gif

FYI, this isn't me. Its from the Alan See's blog and something I liked but never would have thought of, let alone done, so I was interested in your thoughts. Thanks for the commentary.

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Originally Posted by zeero3 View Post

This, this, this! I noticed Foo speaks very highly of Will from ASW and his sense of style. I also noticed Will wears things I would think Foo NEVER to even consider to want to wear. He does not give the same advice Will does in a thread like this. He gives advice more "foo"lproof for the noob and the "I've had a full wardrobe for years" (that can't seem to put it together) alike.

The best thing I get from Foo, as a noob myself, is that practically all of his advice is centered around items a noob will likely NOT regret and will likely be able to be worn with most everything else in his early-stage wardrobe. A cream silk square--a staple if nothing else. Another item recommended by Foo I don't think anyone can regret buying.

With all that said, I still thoroughly enjoy reading the cases against Foo's opinions so that I can better explore what's being presented and come to a hopefully no-regrets conclusion I can be confident in....

The great thing about this thread is that it has me thinking about how I dress. Much of the time, I'm on autopilot, a grey or blue suit, any blue or blue and white shirt, any blue or maybe grey tie, white linen pocket square, little thought about pattern or texture and none about saturation. Foo's commentary made me start thinking about these things. And since Foo is the most vocal of the knowledgeable posters, there's a tendency to try out his suggestions. As for the newly reviled cream silk square, I haven't taken mine out of the drawer two years, but I've tried it a number of times recently in response to Foo's advocacy. I'm wearing it today after deciding it was better than white linen.

Today:


Yesterday w/ default white linen:



Incidentally, that's the Minnis 520 I'm wearing today and the pic is fairly accurate on my monitor. Yesterday's suit was the hated by Manton Premier Cru which feels a little flimsy but barely wrinkled through a very long day.
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

Shirt is pale blue. Suit, not SC
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SquareFAIL. Colors are too random, also the muted saturation and level of brightness bring it too close to your jacket. If I were to convert this pic to grayscale, you'd see the square and jacket blend together. This leaves a big gap between the jacket/square and the tie. With the square, you really want to hit a spot somewhere between. Also, regardless of what stuffing technique you use, the result shouldn't turn out like this, where the square looks like a clenched mess of rumples floating conspicuously in the center of your pocket.

I just converted to grayscale in Photoshop and I was right. Go ahead and do the same. You'll see everything turn to a similar shade of light grey--except for your tie, which will be near black.

Final score: foo.gif

You're high. No one is looking at me in grayscale. And I'll take my rumples over your semicircle any day of the week.
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Ah, the infamous third nipple pic.

Tie and square are too close, both in color and brightness/saturation. Also, this goes to show why I have such a problem with the two-pattern square/tie combo. They look like add-ons.

Score: foo.gif

It's good that you stated at least some of this in the first person instead of as a universal. Anyway, that shit's bangin'.
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Not bad, but the square is stuffed funny. It looks flattened. Other than that, nothing is wrong--but the square is distracting enough to cost you a notch.

Score: foo.giffoo.gif

Funny stuffed-square = one foo.gif

Let this be a lesson to you all.
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