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post #346 of 12577
Stitches - I like the first one you posted there, with the dark coat and the burnt orange pindot tie. The collar is a little pointy for my taste, but overall it's good. On the others, #1 isn't bad either but could do with a light blue shirt instead of the white. #2, get rid of the tie. #3, that pic is better than the first one but still too matchy IMHO.
post #347 of 12577
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

It's a very rich (varied) brown, bah - I hate the iphone.
I took an ipad photo this morning, but it is unusable because of the colors. Light gray fresco 3 roll 2 sack suit with patch and flap hip pockets and patch breat pocket. Burgundy university stripe OCBD and milk chocolate grenadine tie, with taupeblack, white and wine tammis keefe print square. In photo, shirt stripes looked gray and tie looked red. Suit color was mostly ok but had a huge white patch on the chest.
post #348 of 12577
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

aaron and axel - good but safe combos. Solid blue suits are great because they allow for a lot more shirt and tie diversity. Take advantage of this if you can and be mindful of texture and playing colors off each other.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Not overtly offensive. But not in good taste, either. There is no nuance, no visual flow, no meaningful variance.

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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Categorical nuance is meaningless without visual distinction. What does it matter if something is this material or that material? The textures between all three elements are very similar, and there is too little contrast in saturation or brightness to compensate.

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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

these are assumptions you are making based on what seems to be a bad phone picture in a car. I have no issue with textures being similar as long as they are not the same and the color shades are not exact. Again, I have no issue with this look other than wearing a wool tie in what seems to be a summer outift, I can appreciate a montone outfit.

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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

I think _AMD's look is fine. Maybe it's not creative but it's a classic for a reason. Much as I love the tweedy combos popular among the old guard here, there can be a graceful elegance to stripped-down minimalism.

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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

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AMD @ 68: not bad. Simple and safe. More contrast between tie and suit would be better; either make the suit or tie a dark navy, or even make the tie (but not the suit!) black, and it’s very good.

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Thank you all for taking hte time to comment. I do appreciate the effort, and the information.

I would like to make a few comments in response, however, I want to be clear that none of this is being offered as an excuse or defense of my initial post. I am simply looking to clarify a few things, and see if it has any impacts on the responses that I received here.

The photo was a bad iPhone shot taken in the back of a car on a highway in sporadic morning light. The jacket is a blue (not quite navy) fresco. The shirt is a chambray, although thinner and smoother than most chambrays that I have felt. The tie is a very light weight, open weave cotton, linen, silk blend), in an ink blue color (?, it was a gift and is unlabeled, but that is what I recall being told. As an aside, there was a comment about a stain on the tie which appears to be missing from the thread now (I'm guessing DH nuked). While not a helpful or useful comment, I would like to point out that there is no stain. It was the combination of odd light coming in the car window, and the fact that the shirt was showing through the open weave of the tie in that light.

Again, this is not offered in defense of myself, my taste, or my post. I am eager to learn and appreciate the opinions of those offering them in this thread, and wondered if this information would change any of the responses to my original post.

Thanks to all in this thread for breathing new life into MC.

Aaron
post #349 of 12577
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Suggestion from someone who still knows very little about photography but has through trial and error learned how to take better pics with an iphone - Instead of doing the mirror thing, stand facing an open window. Turn the phone around so that the screen is facing towards the window (I know there's a camera on both sides, but the camera on the screen side is not as good). If you're lucky you'll be able to see enough reflection in the window of the screen that you can aim at the right stuff. Take 6 or 7, moving the phone around a little bit. Pick one and post.

excellent idea, thank you.
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Stitches - I like the first one you posted there, with the dark coat and the burnt orange pindot tie. The collar is a little pointy for my taste, but overall it's good. On the others, #1 isn't bad either but could do with a light blue shirt instead of the white. #2, get rid of the tie. #3, that pic is better than the first one but still too matchy IMHO.

thanks, but i do like that tie in #2. frown.gif

i really need to start using blue and patterned shirts more often. the all white all the time is a holdover from my jewish schooling. white shirts are pretty much the standard, and anything outside that is looked at askance. not a stylistic thing, just a conforming to the group thing.
post #350 of 12577
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

i really need to start using blue and patterned shirts more often. the all white all the time is a holdover from my jewish schooling. white shirts are pretty much the standard, and anything outside that is looked at askance. not a stylistic thing, just a conforming to the group thing.

But it's also kind of a stylistic thing, once you consider what the rest of that jewish schoolboy outfit entails. I doubt there is much tweed.
post #351 of 12577
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Nice CP - what is the weight of that coat?
It's very light, 8 or 9 oz I think.
post #352 of 12577
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

But it's also kind of a stylistic thing, once you consider what the rest of that jewish schoolboy outfit entails. I doubt there is much tweed.

lol, no there is not. it is often called the penguin suit. black pants, white shirt, black jacket. occasionally a dark blue or gray gets mixed in somewhere. always solid colors, always a plain wool weave, maybe even polyester.

its not an outfit that was chosen for any stylistic reason whatsoever. it is just a look that over the past 10 or 15 years has become standard within certain circles. and if you want to be taken even remotely seriously in those circles, you need to conform to some degree. now, the POW purple overcheck certainly doesnt play well there, i just mean i never really wore much besides a white shirt, so i dont have a lot of experience using colored and textured shirts with outfits. it is something i am just starting to try out.
post #353 of 12577
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

I took an ipad photo this morning, but it is unusable because of the colors. Light gray fresco 3 roll 2 sack suit with patch and flap hip pockets and patch breat pocket. Burgundy university stripe OCBD and milk chocolate grenadine tie, with taupeblack, white and wine tammis keefe print square. In photo, shirt stripes looked gray and tie looked red. Suit color was mostly ok but had a huge white patch on the chest.

Vintage Brooks Brothers? I hope.
post #354 of 12577
mafoofan said:! (Click to show)
Well, first of all--I never, ever match my square to my shirt. It almost guarantees a fail. Some incidental reference to your shirt is okay, but you don't want to be wearing a light blue square with a light blue shirt.
What I do instead is use my square as a visual filler. I look at the tie, shirt, and suit/jack I'm wearing, and think about what part of the contrast, saturation, scale, and color range needs to be filled out. For example, if I have a light suit, light shirt, and a dark tie, I usually look for a medium bright square to slot in. I think about color largely the same way. Rather than look for a single color or item to match or complement, I think about what color is missing from the ensemble as a whole. This is harder to explain and probably takes more experience than any of the other considerations. But there is some rule of thumb you can use to begin with: browns and blues go nicely together, and any other color (red, green, purple, etc.) is easier to match the darker it is.
Also, as a rule, the more intricate the motif the less it should be repeated, and any time you repeat a motif, the scale should vary by a visually obvious amount. So, for example, I would never do more than one paisley in an outfit, or more than one floral motif. However, stripes and checks can be done--just go big and small.
Think about it this way: every two items suggests a continuum between them along each of their disparate attributes. Try to "make sense" of everything by filling in those continuums.
Hard to deal with--which is why I would avoid a jacket like that to begin with. However, purple isn't necessarily the wrong way to go. I would just go with a dark, inky plum, instead of a medium purple as you've chosen. Then, at least, you would have some more adequate saturation contrast.[/q

Brilliant. Thank you.
post #355 of 12577
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

lol, no there is not. it is often called the penguin suit. black pants, white shirt, black jacket. occasionally a dark blue or gray gets mixed in somewhere. always solid colors, always a plain wool weave, maybe even polyester.

Well, this is the kind of stuff you want to wear a white shirt with. And it's also the kind of thing that looks best on high-contrast complexions, such as many American Jews. I'm not saying it's a sartorial paradise, I'm just saying, these things have a way of adapting themselves, and keeping just one element and replacing everything else is risky. I think that was kind of the point of Vox's Practical Combinations thread.
post #356 of 12577
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

and this brings up another point, the quality of the pics many times is as much a determinant of the type of criticism as the outfit is. A very nicely lighted pic goes a long way to making an outfit look great and vice versa.

Excellent point!
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Originally Posted by mmkn View Post

Agree. "Too" is the price of attempts at distinction.
Anymore one comes here to practice "commenting," to avoid the same mistakes (distinction?) when it comes to oneself.
It' enough to blink and say, "yes," "no," "no," . . . and then figure out the reasons why.
- M

No disagreement from me.
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

It's a very rich (varied) brown, bah - I hate the iphone.

Time to get that micro four thirds. I love the cloth by the way.
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Gaz - I love suit #3. What's the fabric there? Seems like it's kind of tan and gray at the same time.

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Grey nail head.
post #357 of 12577
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

It's very light, 8 or 9 oz I think.
Do you remember which book it came from? I've been looking for a summer sportcoat fabric in that weight...
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Originally Posted by gazman70k View Post

Grey nail head.

Ah, thank you. Really resolves to a lovely texture at a medium distance.
post #359 of 12577
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

I don't play sports (imagine that)....

Seriously? Serious rhetorical question: how do you possibly get through life?
post #360 of 12577
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Vintage Brooks Brothers? I hope.
The shirt is. Complete with collar and cuff fraying. Suit is from Chipp2/Winston tailors, as is the tie. With my shoes from Alden (Modified last tan wingtip bluchers), it is an all-American day.

Ooops - belt is not U.S.
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