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post #256 of 13589
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

1. You're overdoing the purple--and the white for that matter. Purple in the suit does not necessarily call for a purple tie, and a white shirt does not require a white square. Lots of lost opportunity to marry things together in an interesting way. Consequently, there is no visual flow. The best outfits, in my opinion, are the ones that make my eyes both dance and linger. Easiest solution? Don't wear weird colored suits that limit your options.
2. Yeah, see, if you didn't tell us this is an odd jacket, I'd assume you're in a suit. I don't like the tie design, but the nobody will fault you for the color and whether it matches your jacket. It's just another "dead" outfit. Grey, blue, white--a single tone each. Ditch the white square for a start. Better to wear no square at all then to simply mimic your shirt.
3. Same deal with the square/shirt matching. Don't do it. Tie is hideous. Discard.
4. Your best effort in this series. But that may be because I can't see the white square you're probably wearing. smile.gif
5. The tie and jacket clash. They are different colors (and ones that often complement), but they are both about the same intensity and saturation level.
General thoughts: get away from white shirts with odd jackets and don't wear white squares with them. If you are having trouble figuring out pocket squares, leave them out until you get more comfortable.

thank you sir.

i asked whnay, ill ask you too. the purple SC, what tie would you recommend. i love that SC and its a keeper.

as to the PSs, vox told me the same thing. stay away from them if you are not comfortable with them. better without, than with one that doesnt work. i aught to go back to that. i just dont feel good in a square.

the jacket in the last pic is all kinds of bad for me. its being sold at present.
post #257 of 13589
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

I have found that green generally works with purple and pink. Try a loden green solid in a tweedy material (wool, challis are two examples)

thank you. where to kop?
post #258 of 13589
english please, wtf is kop?
post #259 of 13589
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post


thank you. where to kop?

 

Try Sam Hober. Or, if in Manhattan, Paul Stuart.

post #260 of 13589
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

english please, wtf is kop?

lol, a word i picked up here on SF. where could i fund such a tie for purchase is what i was asking.
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

Try Sam Hober. Or, if in Manhattan, Paul Stuart.

good idea. i have a green grenadine from hober. not sure it would work tho.
post #261 of 13589
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Originally Posted by LeviMay View Post

A question for the Big Dogs, if I may:
I absolutely love all the fits posted by Mafoofan, especially with the Glen Check DB, and the last one by Manton. It seems to me, however, that the square comes out of left field, yet totally works. I always end up trying to pick up on something else in the fit... Shirt colour, the figures on a neat-print tie, etc.
How do you so flawlessly choose a square that seems to relate to nothing else, yet works so well with everything? Is it instinct, or is there an actual rationality behind it?

Well, first of all--I never, ever match my square to my shirt. It almost guarantees a fail. Some incidental reference to your shirt is okay, but you don't want to be wearing a light blue square with a light blue shirt.

What I do instead is use my square as a visual filler. I look at the tie, shirt, and suit/jack I'm wearing, and think about what part of the contrast, saturation, scale, and color range needs to be filled out. For example, if I have a light suit, light shirt, and a dark tie, I usually look for a medium bright square to slot in. I think about color largely the same way. Rather than look for a single color or item to match or complement, I think about what color is missing from the ensemble as a whole. This is harder to explain and probably takes more experience than any of the other considerations. But there is some rule of thumb you can use to begin with: browns and blues go nicely together, and any other color (red, green, purple, etc.) is easier to match the darker it is.

Also, as a rule, the more intricate the motif the less it should be repeated, and any time you repeat a motif, the scale should vary by a visually obvious amount. So, for example, I would never do more than one paisley in an outfit, or more than one floral motif. However, stripes and checks can be done--just go big and small.

Think about it this way: every two items suggests a continuum between them along each of their disparate attributes. Try to "make sense" of everything by filling in those continuums.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

sorry about the odd jacket, but i can not tell a lie. even on the internets.
frown.gif even the tie in #4. i thought that one was ok.
the ties are neither tj maxx or hand me downs, but i am working on a new collection. also, what would you then recommend with the purple overcheck POW SC in #1. i thought a purple tie with white dots was a pretty decent choice?

Hard to deal with--which is why I would avoid a jacket like that to begin with. However, purple isn't necessarily the wrong way to go. I would just go with a dark, inky plum, instead of a medium purple as you've chosen. Then, at least, you would have some more adequate saturation contrast.
post #262 of 13589
Hober
Ed might have something
Check Bergdorf or Neiman Marcus around sale time - their private label stuff isn't bad

If you weren't small time (this is a joke) I'd say EG Capelli bespoke...
post #263 of 13589
I agree with all of what the Foo said but one thing...

I think it's alright to bring out (not match) shirt colors with squares
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post #265 of 13589
Who do I speak to about making a new Rule? White shirt plus white square never, ever work. The only possible exception is in black tie--but even then, I would avoid.
post #266 of 13589
Gaz - is pic #3 a suit?
post #267 of 13589
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Who do I speak to about making a new Rule? White shirt plus white square never, ever work. The only possible exception is in black tie--but even then, I would avoid.

Blasphemy.
post #268 of 13589
Yeah, bad call. White square says business. Fancy silk is fine for dandies, but it's not always the best choice.
post #269 of 13589
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Gaz - is pic #3 a suit?

Yes
post #270 of 13589
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Hard to deal with--which is why I would avoid a jacket like that to begin with. However, purple isn't necessarily the wrong way to go. I would just go with a dark, inky plum, instead of a medium purple as you've chosen. Then, at least, you would have some more adequate saturation contrast.

i cant quite visualize the shade you mean. could i trouble you for a pic or a link?
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Hober
Ed might have something
Check Bergdorf or Neiman Marcus around sale time - their private label stuff isn't bad
If you weren't small time (this is a joke) I'd say EG Capelli bespoke...

i found a nice one on hober, will check by ed as well. thank you.

i know its a joke, but its not far from the truth either. so is life.
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

I agree with all of what the Foo said but one thing...
I think it's alright to bring out (not match) shirt colors with squares

good to know. but i think it will be while before i start messing with squares again. i know it will take down any SF cred i may have, but its just not my thing. i also feel very uncomfortably self aware in one, as NO ONE around here wears one.
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