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post #196 of 12603
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

yuno.gif Y U no like my parts ?
jk - thanks wink.gif

idk, your parts are pretty nice iirc. uhoh.gif

manton - kudos for the effort you are putting here to address each post. it is definitely time consuming, and you give each one considerable attention. very commendable of you.
post #197 of 12603
the square that I am wearing in #3 is absolutely abyssmal. I should have apologized to the forum before posting that pic redface.gif
post #198 of 12603
Some things I should clarify, don't know how they might change your opinions:
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Unbelragazzo @ 143:
The square sucks simply. The colors are not good and the pattern is worse. I’m with foo in disliking small figures on squares.
Pic 1: I like the suit, I really do. It’s a cool casual suit. The tie sucks. Patterns should be smallish, for the most part, but at all events more uniform. If they look like those pretty telescope pictures of far off galaxy clusters don’t wear them. The shirt is good and the collar is excellent on you. A tasteful tie of the same color would be OK, but not great. Either a different color or a darker blue. Either way you need a totally unrelated square.

This is actually not a suit but a SC, a cream linen DB. I don't think the tie is as you describe...the paisleys aren't too out of control in my view...here's a better pic of it:



On the squares, I've come around more recently to favoring more drawing/themed/unprecisely patterned/i don't know what to call them squares such as rubinacci and sometimes drakes make as opposed to these types of patterned squares, so I guess I agree.
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Pic 2: I should like this but it’s not coming together for me. I generally love that type of tie. But what you have there is a very formal look, just about the most formal short of black tie: blue suit, white shirt, B/W/silver wedding tie. HOWEVER the BD collar wrecks it. Possibly if the suit were linen or a hairy flannel—something informal—then the BD collar would “go.” Possibly. Or if the tie were woolen and a little fuzzy. That collar is also not great. It looks “pinched.” You have too much roll, the buttons I think are too high and too far in.

On this specific collar, I agree - this one has never quite worked. For this reason and others, I've moved to a different shirtmaker and I have high hopes for the new one given pictures I have seen of their work. That said, let me explain why I still favor a BD in general in this setting: 1) it's not a suit, it's a blazer 2) tie is not black and white, it's blue and white 3) tie is wool and linen. You may argue that a tie in such a pattern should not exist in wool and linen blend, I don't know. Here is a much better pic of it:


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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Pic 3: I like, good taste, even the square is nice with that little hint of border. Looks haphazardly stuffed in there, which is always good. Collar looks low and sloppy, a spread that wide should not have tie space. Your collar with the white jacket is perfect. (now you’re going to tell me it’s the same shirt.)

Agree again, and same comment serves as for the BD. The collar you liked in pic 1 is from my new shirtmaker, this one from the old, although I do think this is kind of a bad picture - that collar isn't usually that low.
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Unbelragazzo at 181
Nope. Pedestrian suit. The stripe is an afterthought, looks very department store safe. Tie is banal. Shirt is OK Everything is “correct” but nothing about it is good taste.

Better pic of suit and tie together (click for bigger):



Still?
post #199 of 12603
Alright fellas, have at it:

#1
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#2
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#3
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#4
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#5
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post #200 of 12603
inb4 someone says foo looks dumb so he cant criticize other people.

i would rank them, if im allowed to, as follows,

3
2
1
4
5

whether or not they are in good taste, ill leave that to the experts here.
post #201 of 12603
Thread Starter 
Unbelragazzo:

First tie looks even worse, sell it if you can, burn it if you can’t.

Re: #2, that does make it sound better. Theoretically, it should work with a blazer and a tie in an informal fabric. That’s a tie I would wear in summer.

Re: #3, now I like the suit a great deal less and the tie (very) slightly more. The suit is no good, sorry, very cheesy stripe pattern. Stripes are hard to get right and that is way off. Re: basket weave ties, I am over my fling with them, got over it a long time ago. If I wanted a woven tie in those colors, I would choose a houndstooth like o/o’s. In fact, I have one almost just like it.
post #202 of 12603
Thread Starter 
Foo @ 199

This is all really good. Apart from the idiotic shape of that 4x1 DB, which mercifully we can’t see.

#1: is that square solid green with little white dots? Not into dotted squares. But, gents, there’s a four-pattern combo for you that works.

#2 = great. Truly smashing tie. That would look better with a white square.

#3: ditto, I have one very close to that. Shepard’s check is my favorite tie pattern by far, I must have a dozen.

#4: a bit too tonally uniform. If you want to stick with all blue, make the tie darker.

#5: great, though more contrast between tie and square would be good.
post #203 of 12603
on foo.gif -
1: suit fabric is amazing. i like the tie too, but i also know where it came from and have a personal affection for its maker, so that may be coloring my perception. shirt works well there too. PS is not really what I would choose there.

2: I don't like geometric print ties, including this one. I also don't like this PS with this tie.

3: looks good all around to me, except I still don't like the PS.

4: Another geometric tie, but I like the fit. Definitely good taste IMHO.

5: My favorite of the lot. Flawless victory.
post #204 of 12603
Yep, four patterns in #1, and yes, the square is dark green with white dots.
post #205 of 12603
Thread Starter 
2 and 3 are the best IMO and 3 is perfect, everyone memorize that.
post #206 of 12603
Foo,

Wonderful tie on #2. These all look pretty good to me, although sometimes I get the feeling you're trying so hard not to match any item to another that something feels a hair off.

This is a little weird to say, but you seem to be great at folding and stuffing silk squares. Any tips?
post #207 of 12603
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Unbelragazzo:
First tie looks even worse, sell it if you can, burn it if you can’t.
Re: #2, that does make it sound better. Theoretically, it should work with a blazer and a tie in an informal fabric. That’s a tie I would wear in summer.
Re: #3, now I like the suit a great deal less and the tie (very) slightly more. The suit is no good, sorry, very cheesy stripe pattern. Stripes are hard to get right and that is way off. Re: basket weave ties, I am over my fling with them, got over it a long time ago. If I wanted a woven tie in those colors, I would choose a houndstooth like o/o’s. In fact, I have one almost just like it.

I am coming around to your view on the striped suit. Still like both of those ties though. The first one is definitely in the whimsical vein that I wouldn't wear with really any but the most summery and casual of jackets such as the cream linen DB, but I think it has its place. I doubt I will ever wear it more than twice a year though. So for the purpose of this wardrobe-building discussion, it's not a good one. On the tie in #2, yes, definitely a tie I wear in the summer only.
post #208 of 12603
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

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i would rank them, if im allowed to, as follows,
3
2
...
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

2 and 3 are the best IMO and 3 is perfect, everyone memorize that.



oh look, i just may have picked something up from this thread.
post #209 of 12603
I did not like 1 (too busy) and 4 (too washed out/monochrome, highlighted by the square). Loved 2, 3 and 5 though the order keeps shifting.
As an aside, all the individual items are great, too.
post #210 of 12603
#3 is my favorite and it's not really that close, either. I love the tie.

I don't have a bad word to say about any of them. I personally do not like geometric print ties but that's personal taste.
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