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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

And that's fair enough. But for this thread to be useful, there has to be room for discussion and reasonable disagreement.
Truth be told, I wouldn't have posted an unbuttoned collar in this thread. But the value of the thread, for me, hinges on its participants and the overall level of discussion, rather than on whether every post appeals to my sensibilities.


You and are in much closer agreement. If there is a raison d'être for this thread it is to engage in a discussion, as it relates to men's clothing, of what is and is not good taste. It started out well and some of the misses have added as much value as the hits, but affectation is never in good taste. If we are going to make mistakes can't they at least be our own?
post #1607 of 13331
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Originally Posted by knittieguy View Post

More fodder for your disapproval

I like the tie and shirt but the knot (despite being quite tight) is too large. The jacket, after being pulled from the deep recesses of your closet, should only be worn by a woman, who is otherwise naked, waiting for your return. If that situation is unlikely to occur--burn the jacket.
post #1608 of 13331
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

Can't get behind the unbuttoned BD. But hey, whatever rocks your world...
Manton, is this what you meant by the Flusser fold for cotton squares back in the SquareFail threak?
The shirt in the all-blue ensemble has a Charles Nakhle tall semi-cutaway collar. The shirt in the gray and brown ensemble is Patrick Johnson's version of the same tall, semi-cutaway. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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I dislike that pocketsquare. Or any checked or polka dot PS really.

Everything else is nice.
post #1609 of 13331
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Originally Posted by CousinDonuts View Post

2 questions:
1) Why doesn't Spoo post here? He has grail status on SF and from what I've seen would garner the tasteful moniker.
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

spoo, salt of the earth though he may be, mostly does not dress by my idea of good taste. no h8.

This. No hate taken. The crowd here has a different style than I do and we agree to disagree on some things. Im quite happy dressing the way I do and accepting critical advice when its relevant, but my style and dress are markedly different from the gents who frequent this thread. I don't need to cross post here for approval, my presence here is large enough that I will find valuable input and advice where ever I post (once I sift the bullshit). smile.gif

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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

I meant to write this earlier, not sure why the heck I thought of Spoo now (uhoh.gif) but I think if you take a look at his recent stuff, particularly the suits, I think you'll say that it's in good taste, if not to your taste. He likes a slimmer, more "power" fit than what we do and he is more Tom Ford than Fred Astaire but I would disagree with anyone who says he has bad taste. Yes, his taste in shoes is more suspect than Bernie Madoff working in Fort Knox but he's a young guy. I think his bouts of "flash" are what turn the old timers off to him but I think he's improved a lot.

Ed, I appreciate this.

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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

He posted earlier in the thread, I think. He has changed quite a bit in the last couple of years (he wrote a post about the evolution not too long ago, don't remember where). Still tends to inject one or two flashy items in the mix but has certainly toned things down. It's a process - for many SFers, there's a long phase of "kid in a candy store" where we buy a lot of pretty things and just wear them - and then we evolve from that and think in terms of the overall picture and effect.

100% spot on.

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Originally Posted by scoredtx View Post

Let's just make him submit to a color-blind test see! 

FWIW, it was Spoo's tumblr presence and style that eventually pointed me to SF, with a nudge along the way by putthison (the whale pocketsquare post IIRC).  He's a great ambassador for the forum IMO. Seems to me "style" is personal and unique to each individual, and we are all, at various stages, working to refine our own personal style in alignment with the man we are or (gasp) the man we want to be. Anyway, enough of the syrup.

I was going to take the test, but Im not spending $30 on it.

FWIW, your words are very kind, thank you. Im happy you found SF because of the pocket whale, and I hope your experience here is fulfilling.
post #1610 of 13331
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Originally Posted by CaymanS View Post

I leave them unbuttoned because I don't like the look of the 'roll' when they're buttoned.

Then...get a collar that doesn't have buttons and buttonholes?
post #1611 of 13331
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

I like the tie and shirt but the knot (despite being quite tight) is too large. The jacket, after being pulled from the deep recesses of your closet, should only be worn by a woman, who is otherwise naked, waiting for your return. If that situation is unlikely to occur--burn the jacket.

knot is too wide and too squat/short IMHO. Whether or not the jacket could ever be worn, certainly not with this tie. Probably not with this shirt either. And if a jacket can't be worn with a solid light blue shirt, well...
post #1612 of 13331
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

I dislike that pocketsquare. Or any checked or polka dot PS really.
Everything else is nice.

Thanks.

But we'll have to agree to disagree... it's one of my favourite.
post #1613 of 13331
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

You and are in much closer agreement. If there is a raison d'être for this thread it is to engage in a discussion, as it relates to men's clothing, of what is and is not good taste. It started out well and some of the misses have added as much value as the hits, but affectation is never in good taste. If we are going to make mistakes can't they at least be our own?

One man's affectation is another man's style. This day and age a pocket square or a bow tie can be considered an affectation.

I would like to see this thread be more curated by the original creator(s). As the amount of people who add their opinion increases, the more bland and useless the thread becomes.
post #1614 of 13331
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Originally Posted by ColdEyedPugilist View Post

Can't get behind the unbuttoned BD. But hey, whatever rocks your world...
Manton, is this what you meant by the Flusser fold for cotton squares back in the SquareFail threak?
The shirt in the all-blue ensemble has a Charles Nakhle tall semi-cutaway collar. The shirt in the gray and brown ensemble is Patrick Johnson's version of the same tall, semi-cutaway.
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Suits by Patrick Johnson?
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Originally Posted by ThinkDerm View Post

Suits by Patrick Johnson?

Yep.
post #1616 of 13331
I couldn't find my white linen square, or i would have used it, probably with a solid tie.
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I didn't get the pic hosted properly. I will try to repost later.
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post #1619 of 13331
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Originally Posted by Burton View Post

The jacket, after being pulled from the deep recesses of your closet, should only be worn by a woman, who is otherwise naked, waiting for your return. If that situation is unlikely to occur--burn the jacket.

Is this the consensus here?

This isn't my favorite jacket or anything, but I find it odd that a traditional gray/black houndstooth sportcoat, like the type you might have seen on William Holden or Bing Crosby, is now considered in bad taste. I seem to recall that Nicholas Antongiavanni fellow advising that classic houndstooth is appropriate attire. And while the tooth pattern here is undoubtedly larger than one would desire on a suit, it's about normal size (actually smaller than many I've seen) for a sport jacket, and can hardly be called garish, especially when paired with a solid blue shirt and navy tie. I wouldn't wear it to a funeral or anything, but if you had said it was boring and too 1963 I'd actually understand the criticism better.

I certainly don't mind critiques (that's the point of posting isn't it?) and I recognize that if you have to try and defend an outfit, then there's probably something wrong with it. But this does make me think that there really can be no universally accepted standard for good taste, at least without context. I've seen other outfits get dismissed here even though they look like they're right out of Apparel Arts or Gary Cooper's closet.

Maybe I just do not grasp Mantonian principles and the point of this thread.

Ah well, I bear no ill will and will not intrude any further.confused.gif
post #1620 of 13331
Is black traditional for houndstooth? To me it's a formal color scheme on an informal garment. Black and white houndstooth belongs on a tie IMHO.
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