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post #12016 of 12602
Thoughts on this fit?

Taken from the Drapers site


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post #12017 of 12602
^Tie looks a bit on the dressy side for the sport coat. Like it otherwise.
post #12018 of 12602
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

I think the color / saturation makes you think that (like for the tie) but a sky blue on white rarely "pops" really. I'm not sure if it's one of our Inglese / Alumo shirts (if it is, then I can be accused of strong bias) but I like thin striped shirts too - not just butcher or candy. They are MUCH harder to get right in terms of proportions of white - that is true - but that doesn't mean that sometimes mills do get it right. I know I comb through A LOT of shirting books to pick fabrics to get our shirts made and those are some of the hardest to pick. A plain pink is also a very hard shirting fabric to pick - but that's more a question of the right tinge than pattern proportions.

I don't disagree with anything Greg says here--in fact, I think he really nails it--except to say that I think Foo is right about the white-to-blue ratio in this particular narrow striped example, whether a NMWA product or not.
post #12019 of 12602
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Originally Posted by ctp120 View Post

Tie looks a bit on the dressy side for the sport coat. Like it otherwise.

+1. Looks like a blue and red neat?

I'd also go for a button down collar for a sportcoat like that. Spread collar doesn't work.
post #12020 of 12602
Wouldn't say the spread simply doesn't work, but I totally agree that a bd (ideally ocbd) would be preferable.

On the other hand, I think what he has on would be perfect if he just swapped the sport coat for a dark navy blazer, but that would be a different look altogether from the really great sport coat--my favorite individual piece in the pic.
post #12021 of 12602

Equal or close to equal width in the blue stripes and white ground looks more pleasing to my eye.  As Loathing mentioned, the symmetry is appealing, and it allows the shirt to blend in more easily with the rest of the outfit.  The stripes should also not be too wide.

 

 

 

vs:

 

 

It's hard to explain, but the wide white ground paired with a much narrower stripe is a bit reminiscent of the 80s (just as a shirt in a highly saturated solid French blue reminds one of the 90s).  Here's a picture from the 1987 Brooks Brothers catalog, via the Trad, to illustrate.  If you were there, you'll know what I mean.

 

post #12022 of 12602
Those are gasoline worthy:

post #12023 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post

The logic is really nothing more complicated than: symmetry is more pleasing and less distracting than asymmetry.

Isn't that the same logic that always crops up in the Windsor vs. FIH debate?
post #12024 of 12602
Would a larger patterned neat work with that sport coat from the Drapers site? I had been operating on the belief that such ties (particularly if madder-ish) were sufficiently countrified to work with that style coat. Of course, it's partly a matter of degrees, but I read a comment recently from some who generally described that combination as too much of a city-country contrast.
post #12025 of 12602
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Originally Posted by Loathing View Post

The point is that the white spaces should always been equal width to the coloured stripes.Therefore pencil stripes are effectively always in bad taste. The logic is really nothing more complicated than: symmetry is more pleasing and less distracting than asymmetry.

While equal sized white - blue stripes is always safe that's not the only way to do it tastefully.

If the blue stripe is very thin - just a couple threads wide - it can look fine on a white background.
post #12026 of 12602
If, as below, I think that is worst of all.



post #12027 of 12602
Thou shalt not have More White than Whatever-other-color-is-in-your-shirt's-pattern.

/Manton
post #12028 of 12602
^ I thought it was the other way around. Too much of a darker color and not enough white results in a shirt that is too dark to be in good taste.
post #12029 of 12602
Finding pictures of ugly stripes isn't really a great demonstration of anything.

Stripes with more white or more color can be equally tricky to get in the right proportions and tinges, clearly harder than a candy stripe. But that doesn't mean that they're inherently in bad taste. Trying to find a geometric logic to it is likely to fail as well - why would a thin stripe be the pinnacle of horror in a logical way when adding another horizontal thin stripe gives you a graph check shirt, which most here would agree are the easiest check shirts to wear with a suit and tie... There's more white and the lines are thin... so...?

I'm on my phone so not ideal to search very far for examples but here are some from aportnoy and myself that I think work fine - apart of the photo quality and colors of course shog[1].gif










Nothing good here? Maybe that's just a matter of personal taste after all...
post #12030 of 12602
funny, i was about to post that pic of the NMWA model. it does appear that shirt you used was with evenly sized stripes. i see you also used the other colorway navajo PS. ill do that next time.

lol that it has proven so hard for me to DTO a mannequin. i guess i should have looked at it closer.

in any case, i like all those combos.
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