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post #11266 of 13401
Shirt's blue, overcheck is red
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

I've found shantung and raw silk as ideal for wedding ties (weddings you're attending, obviously). While they are generally made up in tasteful designs, the sloppy edge makes them ideal for a party scene. I've gotten many stares and comments on mine.
Given they are more often than not in the warmer months, I find linen a better wedding tie, still with a bit of interest/texture to the fabric but with a level of formality and refinement as well that shantung/raw silk lacks.
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Originally Posted by Henry Carter View Post

Given they are more often than not in the warmer months, I find linen a better wedding tie, still with a bit of interest/texture to the fabric but with a level of formality and refinement as well that shantung/raw silk lacks.

+1. Of course a normal wedding tie works too.
post #11269 of 13401
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

Shirt's blue, overcheck is red


Very cool. I worry sometimes about red/orange, but it seems to work well there.

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Doc's is a great example of tasteful pieces in a more complex combination. One of the posters who's thought-provoking combinations I've appreciated a lot lately is sugar butch. Hope he'll throw some in here too. SB's recent stuff seems to be influenced/inspired by the evolution of thought present in the thread. Wish unbel would post some as well.
post #11271 of 13401
That's nice of you to say. I am a thread originalist, and I tend to post only those things which I think Manton might actually like. I don't think he considers the scope of the thread to be so narrow, but that's my standard.
post #11272 of 13401
I second your deference. But the pics I'm thinking of, at least several of em I remember seeing from you I thought would meet his approval. In fact, in a rare visit to WAYWRN not too terribly long ago he told you so himself.
post #11273 of 13401
Here's a pic of me w/ a raw silk tie (I'm guessing it falls under the same rules as shantung) and tweed in the fall:
AppleMark
This is one of the very few ways I buck tradition. But it just feels natural to me to wear it w/ tweed, perhaps because it looks so much like wool. Usually w/ tweed I'd wear a solid knit in silk or mohair, or any type of wool tie (plain or patterened). But I thought this looked pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

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I've got no problem with a bit of texture. And I think it works especially well in some contexts.

I'm thinking about getting this tie (Conrad Wu)
But this just looks hopelessly shabby (also CW)


You crazy! I love that tie and was in on a limited edition mto of it in 9 cm. Two people pulled out yesterday, so it's on hold.
The way people are so easily swayed on this forum, I bet it was your comment that did it! (Not blaming you and your poor taste, C tongue.gif, just them and their weak wills.)
post #11274 of 13401

All this shantung love/hate. ..


Edited by conradwu - 11/16/13 at 2:41pm
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welp, fwiw, i think that looks great, emptym.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

welp, fwiw, i think that looks great, emptym.

I agree, that looks great. I'm not a big fan of shantung and don't own any, but can appreciate there awesomeness.
post #11277 of 13401
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

shantung is for summer, dudes.


I was wondering about the source of the tradition. It turns out that tutee's Apparel Arts articles discusses summer ties including shantung.

http://thelondonlounge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7140&hilit=shantung

from Summer 35' Vol V No IV of AA
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A new note in neckwear is provided by India corah silk ties with Paisley and foulard patterns. This silk has a rough appearance, much like that of Shantung, and the patterns are exclusively on dark cream colored backgrounds. Important too is the return to solid colored rough Shantung silk neckwear, with such shades as tan, red, blue, yellow and green much in evidence. India madras is still worn by many but the newer ties in this material are cut across the goods instead of on the bias, with the result that the varied-colored plaids run horizontally or vertically instead of diagonally.

http://thelondonlounge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5709&hilit=shantung
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Below is an exhaustive account of summer / resort wear articles from summer of 34’. This is the only time a fashion survey will be presented this summer. This one pretty much covers all the basic items of interest.

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Summer Neckwear
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Four-in-hand ties for warm weather seem to undergo a transition every five years. It is to be remembered that about five years ago the white Shantung necktie came in, having first been seen at Spring Maytime house parties at Princeton. This changed the entire direction of summer neckwear to white grounds, a trend which remained in vogue since then. Observations at Palm beach last winter indicated that the most conspicuous thing about the white ground foulard necktie was its absence from fashion picture. The new note in neckwear for summer is that provided by dark grounds, such as black, navy blue, deep wine, bottle green and a madder brown. Ties of this character, with deep grounds, figures or spots in bright contrasting colors. This trend toward dark grounds is important news, and should be watched very carefully this summer.
post #11278 of 13401
That's interesting, P. Thanks. I was wondering how shantung came to be considered a summer fabric. Wasn't able to find much in a quick search.

But my guess was that that British guys first encountered the material in colonies like HK. When they brought it back home, they associated it w/ the warm weather of those colonies and wore it in warm weather. The American connection would have followed from that.

But again, this is just my imagination. If anyone knows the truth, pls. share.
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Interesting choice to put that many lines together. Seems fooish! Is the shirt light blue or grey?
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