What Is the Worst Thing You Ever Saw a Sartorial Hero Do? - Page 4

or for others, joo squared.

paging mr spoo swap.
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manton, that really wide, multi colored, stripe tie you posted once, yeah, that might belong here. sorry, mang.

The shirt (you write) has a white background, but it's not the same intensity (stark) white as the square. Looks like a grayed (soft) white.

The "summery blue" is not a true blue (balance of black, white, blue, and yellow), but instead looks grayed (too much black more than white ) - a grayed navy.



Yea, but one with olive skin and high contrast eyes and hair and tee-- (wait, didn't J recently put a kibosh on teeth comments? I better not go there . . . )

So bold, intense, true, high contrast colors looks better on you, IMO.

Now it the tie was a more "summery" tie and the square was a softer white, the outfit would all go together - but still not with you.

- M

The picture is not worthy of sartorial hero sadness, but just WAYWT fodder . . .

Astaire is my sartorial hero nonpareil, and the two examples cited as missteps don’t bother me at all. As for the collar pin/button down combo, I’m of the anti-coco school--before leaving home, look in the mirror and put one more thing on. The notch lapel dinner jacket is from a period beginning in the 1960s when Astaire was apparently trying to modernize his look, and the wide, notch lapels on his dinner jacket worn in 1981 were all the rage then. By then he had been wearing plain front trousers and and a trimmer cut overall for some time without ever losing his innate elegance:



The only time I am ever taken slightly aback by Fred’s attire is when I view the scene in Daddy Long Legs in which he sports a bow tie tied so wide that, if the wind caught it and made it twirl, he would take off like a helicopter:



This, however, would make me cry if I thought it were anything other than a costume:

That's how wide a bow tie should be.

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Edited by RJE - 8/1/12 at 2:57pm

Nothing is worse than a skimpy, sheepish bow tie. If you don't feel brave enough to wear one with a little jauntiness to it, you shouldn't wear one at all--it's a bow tie.

This is a great thread.
I think I will nominate the striped blazer with black piping. I don't know how to find a pic, but someone can find it, I am sure.
Astaire, like the DoW, represents a rich vein for this sort of thing. He really knew what he was doing, but he changed his style a bit over time and he also experimented, so you are bound to find some clinkers in the otherwise stellar inventory.

A bow tie should be the same width as your eyes - period!

You guys are obsessing too much over bow-tie width. While I think moderate is always a good rule, bow-tie width has ever been at the whim of fashion. (Also, except at the extremes, no one cares.)

Until about an hour or so ago, that square, with the navy border, was bulging charmingly from my jacket pocket.

To the original question: just about anything worn by Edward Windsor (aka the Duke of Used to be the Prince of Wales Then Was The King Then Wasn't Because of That Woman and liked the Nazis) after around 1923.

Eh. I really hate it when the bow tie's outside edges don't reach the collar points (assuming a turn-down collar). It's a non-negotiable point to me. Vox agreed. Except, he said it differently, and my way of saying it was more correct than his.

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Edited by RJE - 8/1/12 at 2:57pm

What is wrong with that? Did you expect him to be in white tie?