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post #8026 of 14462
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Originally Posted by razl View Post

The first word that comes to mind is "photoshop" but you seem like you're asking a legit question. In that case, I'm at a loss for words. It's like a shawl collar but without the shawl.

 

Exactly...didn't know if there was a proper term for it aside from "collarless".

 

 

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 

It's a vest that grew arms!

 

...Tho save for lack of collar/lapels, it's structured like a standard blazer.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Shoeluv View Post
 


I think that is a women's collarless blazer like this:

 

 

Buttons on mine are on the right = men's.

 

 

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Originally Posted by FaceOfBoh View Post

Cardigan collar?

 

That might work - thanks!

 

 

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post
 


The buttons are on the right side on his though!

 

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Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

No button on left is woman's
That is woman blazer

 

My buttons are on the right (not left) side, thus men's.  Plus, it's Kenzo Homme

post #8027 of 14462
Kenzo is nice
I paid extra for a well fitted kenzo

Worth the fee for style
post #8028 of 14462
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Originally Posted by sparrow View Post

No , button on left , is woman's
That is woman blazer

Yes, but the original blazer in question has the buttons on the right.

post #8029 of 14462
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Originally Posted by jgill79 View Post

Yes, but the original blazer in question has the buttons on the right.


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Thanks ! I was looking at the other pic
post #8030 of 14462
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post
 

Good on ya.

You may even want to call back again and speak with someone else and have another opinion noted if they agree with your side as well.

The point of this is to have the deciding agent (the one who makes the final decision on the 4th day) see so much overwhelming evidence in your favor that they close it towards you.

On the 4th day, when you call, the agent you speak to that morning will have the ability to close it out right there on the phone. So be polite, charming, and let the notes left for the other agents be your jury.

Yeah, the agent today just escalated it and said they want 48 hours regardless of all the evidence.  They agreed that it does look like buyers remorse but refused to close it out on the phone and said that all decisions take 48 hours.

post #8031 of 14462

My only neg got removed today. It was from someone claiming they didn't receive an item for a month. He left the feedback a week after he bought the item. It was an international shipment to Canada too. Fucking elated. Also had a good thrift day, and my mannequin came in. It's such a fucking good day.

post #8032 of 14462
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Originally Posted by TheWGP View Post
 

Yeah, the agent today just escalated it and said they want 48 hours regardless of all the evidence.  They agreed that it does look like buyers remorse but refused to close it out on the phone and said that all decisions take 48 hours.

That's BS. I had mine remove instantly. He told me it might take a little white to got through, but by the time I walked from the living room (I'm a phone pacer) to the laptop in the office, it was already gone.

post #8033 of 14462
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Sometimes you have to call BS on the BSers. Tell him to send the shoes back for a refund. Do not offer him a 25% discount! That's exactly what he's after!
I asked him to return the shoes as I don't believe I misled on condition and photos were very clear in my description. i also pointed out that the price was very, very low anyway for this brand. He responded by asking why I would want to court bad feedback?!
He also threatens that if he has to send them back he will demand all extra international postage costs both ways in an ebay claim.
My question is if I refund what he wants couldn't he still leave me bad feedback?
and if he makes an ebay claim against me can he demand all postage as well as refund item price? I presume he can't leave bad feedback if item is refunded?
I'm naive on these matters always having feedback saying the item was better than expected so all this is a nasty shock frown.gif
post #8034 of 14462
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Originally Posted by labravajazz View Post

I asked him to return the shoes as I don't believe I misled on condition and photos were very clear in my description. i also pointed out that the price was very, very low anyway for this brand. He responded by asking why I would want to court bad feedback?!
He also threatens that if he has to send them back he will demand all extra international postage costs both ways in an ebay claim.
My question is if I refund what he wants couldn't he still leave me bad feedback?
and if he makes an ebay claim against me can he demand all postage as well as refund item price? I presume he can't leave bad feedback if item is refunded?
I'm naive on these matters always having feedback saying the item was better than expected so all this is a nasty shock frown.gif

Really sorry to hear about that. Like in all sales, there is a small minority that won't play fair. It sounds like you have one on your hands, assuming that the shoes are as you describe. I recently had a similar experience with an international buyer. They claimed that a sweater I sold them was stretched. It wasn't. My photos were accurate, my measurements were accurate. They're a seller, so I'm fairly certain it was a case of not knowing they were buying a women's sweater rather than a men's. What did I do? I didn't argue, just returned their purchase price and shipping costs at my expense (once I received the return).

The way I look at it, if I get hit with that every 100 sales or so, I'm still fine. If you don't want to mess with the entire process of trying to fight it, I advise you to simply roll over on it. Keep in mind, I have no idea how much they paid in customs fees, etc. If there is a significant amount tied up in it, I'd try to negotiate a deal with them (i.e. I would return their shipping + item cost, but not customs fees). I'd especially try this if you don't sell often, and remind them of this fact (I'm just a normal guy selling my things...). However, they CAN leave feedback for you regardless of whether you accept the return. The only instances where they can't leave feedback are those where you win a case.
post #8035 of 14462

Had a message pop up today when I had to log back into eBay - updated terms & conditions - I just clicked "accept" and moved on...then noticed that nearly all of my listings now offered the Global Shipping Program.  Turns out I was automatically opted in - I did not request it.  So I had to opt out of the program, but that takes 24 hours to take effect for some reason.  Found a get-around to remove it from all listings (instead of having to do them individually), but didn't make note of where/how etc.  Anyway, just a heads-up if you get the new terms & conditions pop-up page: check your listings and make sure you were not opted into GSP automatically (if you don't want to be opted in, that is).

post #8036 of 14462

^^^ That exact same GSP situation happened to me a couple of months ago. You are "opted in" (a bullshit phrase considering no other option is presented) when you accept the updated T&C agreement, which you have to do. I just waited 24 hours and opted out.

post #8037 of 14462
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Originally Posted by ATLnoob View Post

Had a message pop up today when I had to log back into eBay - updated terms & conditions - I just clicked "accept" and moved on...then noticed that nearly all of my listings now offered the Global Shipping Program.  Turns out I was automatically opted in - I did not request it.  So I had to opt out of the program, but that takes 24 hours to take effect for some reason.  Found a get-around to remove it from all listings (instead of having to do them individually), but didn't make note of where/how etc.  Anyway, just a heads-up if you get the new terms & conditions pop-up page: check your listings and make sure you were not opted into GSP automatically (if you don't want to be opted in, that is).

Good to know. Not for myself as a seller, but for those that want to opt out of it. I won't personally buy anything with the GSP as the prices are INSANE. Maybe it's easier for sellers, but as an example, I bought something recently that cost $91. The shipping would have been $28 and another $30 or so in customs fees.

Here's an example:

post #8038 of 14462
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Originally Posted by HansderHund View Post

Really sorry to hear about that. Like in all sales, there is a small minority that won't play fair. It sounds like you have one on your hands, assuming that the shoes are as you describe. I recently had a similar experience with an international buyer. They claimed that a sweater I sold them was stretched. It wasn't. My photos were accurate, my measurements were accurate. They're a seller, so I'm fairly certain it was a case of not knowing they were buying a women's sweater rather than a men's. What did I do? I didn't argue, just returned their purchase price and shipping costs at my expense (once I received the return).

The way I look at it, if I get hit with that every 100 sales or so, I'm still fine. If you don't want to mess with the entire process of trying to fight it, I advise you to simply roll over on it. Keep in mind, I have no idea how much they paid in customs fees, etc. If there is a significant amount tied up in it, I'd try to negotiate a deal with them (i.e. I would return their shipping + item cost, but not customs fees). I'd especially try this if you don't sell often, and remind them of this fact (I'm just a normal guy selling my things...). However, they CAN leave feedback for you regardless of whether you accept the return. The only instances where they can't leave feedback are those where you win a case.
Mmm well this buyer doesn't want to return the shoes, just angling for a $50 discount. Shipping fees are more than this, each way, and I'm tempted to say send them back even though full refund of shipping will cost me over $100.... Truth is he got a great deal.... :/
post #8039 of 14462
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Originally Posted by labravajazz View Post

Mmm well this buyer doesn't want to return the shoes, just angling for a $50 discount. Shipping fees are more than this, each way, and I'm tempted to say send them back even though full refund of shipping will cost me over $100.... Truth is he got a great deal.... :/

In that case, make it very clear: you don't offer partial refunds. If they are unhappy, then they can return them. If they're satisfied, then they keep them. If someone is simply unhappy with colors, fit, etc., I won't give in to a partial refund. It's either satisfied or not. If you receive negative feedback after they refuse to return them, I *think* you can get it removed under the basis of feedback extortion. They threatened you with negative feedback unless you offered a discount. This is the basis for the ebay policy.
post #8040 of 14462
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Originally Posted by capnwes View Post
 

That's BS. I had mine remove instantly. He told me it might take a little white to got through, but by the time I walked from the living room (I'm a phone pacer) to the laptop in the office, it was already gone.

Yeah, I dunno what happened.

 

However, I just got this email (approximately 8-10 hours after I called)

 

We decided not to issue the buyer a refund. You don't need to do anything else for this case. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed. This case is closed.

 

Decision:

This case has been decided in your favor. The hold on this PayPal transaction has been removed.

 

Comments:

This case was found in your favor because this item isn't eligible for eBay Buyer Protection. Any feedback left, including detailed seller ratings, will be removed and won't affect your seller performance standing. Note: It could take up to 24 hours for your Seller Dashboard to reflect this decision. 

 

:bounce2: THANKS SPOO for the tips!

 

What's the whole "isn't eligible for Buyer Protection" thing?  Is that just what they say when it's buyers remorse?

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