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thanks!

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gixen?

I already set up a snipe. But he is shill bidding against his own bids.

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curious what the problem here is.  you are getting the item you want at a price you want.

 

second, please instruct me as to how you know the seller is shill bidding?  seems almost impossible to tell on an online auction.  do you tend to be a paranoid person in general?  walls closing in? zombie apocalypse? 

 

On day one, the seller had a 3 feedback account bidding on 8 different coats from that same seller. The problem is, the coat that I bid on had measurements that were nowhere near that of his other items. I checked the measurements on all of his items. I checked a few days later and that account went from 8 bids to 60 bids...simply to hide the fact that the shill had a 100% bid history with one seller.

There was also another bidder who bid on 256 items in the last 30 days with 24 retractions. Again, high number of bids to hide the bid % history. There is also a third, similar bidder. I checked his other auctions and a few of them (just the ones that look like they won't sell well due to sizing or style) had obvious shills as well.

 

Why do you want to know? Planning on improving your shills? :P

 

"curious what the problem here is."

You definitely sound like the sort of guy who would shill. (yes, i'm slightly paranoid. but mostly just observant)

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Who cares if he is shill bidding. Bid what you want and then leave it, use gixan or just go find it from someone else. Not sure what complaining about it here is going to do. If are you really really annoyed, complain to ebay.

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On day one, the seller had a 3 feedback account bidding on 8 different coats from that same seller. The problem is, the coat that I bid on had measurements that were nowhere near that of his other items. I checked the measurements on all of his items. I checked a few days later and that account went from 8 bids to 60 bids...simply to hide the fact that the shill had a 100% bid history with one seller.

There was also another bidder who bid on 256 items in the last 30 days with 24 retractions. Again, high number of bids to hide the bid % history. There is also a third, similar bidder. I checked his other auctions and a few of them (just the ones that look like they won't sell well due to sizing or style) had obvious shills as well.

 

Why do you want to know? Planning on improving your shills? :P

 

"curious what the problem here is."

You definitely sound like the sort of guy who would shill. (yes, i'm slightly paranoid. but mostly just observant)

 

 

nope you sound paranoid.  do you really think no one else is interested in the same goods?  newbie ebay buyers tend to act in a similar way.  also eBay is pretty good at protecting against shill bidders.  IP address checks n so forth.  

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On day one, the seller had a 3 feedback account bidding on 8 different coats from that same seller. The problem is, the coat that I bid on had measurements that were nowhere near that of his other items. I checked the measurements on all of his items. I checked a few days later and that account went from 8 bids to 60 bids...simply to hide the fact that the shill had a 100% bid history with one seller.

There was also another bidder who bid on 256 items in the last 30 days with 24 retractions. Again, high number of bids to hide the bid % history. There is also a third, similar bidder. I checked his other auctions and a few of them (just the ones that look like they won't sell well due to sizing or style) had obvious shills as well.

 

Why do you want to know? Planning on improving your shills? :P

 

"curious what the problem here is."

You definitely sound like the sort of guy who would shill. (yes, i'm slightly paranoid. but mostly just observant)

 

 

nope you sound paranoid.  do you really think no one else is interested in the same goods?  newbie ebay buyers tend to act in a similar way.  also eBay is pretty good at protecting against shill bidders.  IP address checks n so forth.  

+1 What about that guy who bid 80? times on the Robert Graham shirt a few weeks ago and then lost lol8[1].gif

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nope you sound paranoid.  do you really think no one else is interested in the same goods?  newbie ebay buyers tend to act in a similar way.  also eBay is pretty good at protecting against shill bidders.  IP address checks n so forth.  

what about the bidder that bid on 8 coats from the same seller is vastly different sizes? and a few days later he went from one hundred percent activitywith one seller to about two percent? do newbies typically do that? you are willfully blind . or trolling.and ip checks are incredibly easy to get around
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what about the bidder that bid on 8 coats from the same seller is vastly different sizes? and a few days later he went from one hundred percent activitywith one seller to about two percent? do newbies typically do that? you are willfully blind . or trolling.and ip checks are incredibly easy to get around

 

how can you tell it was the same bidder?

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how can you tell it was the same bidder?

Furthermore, the assumption that an individual buyer wouldn't pursue different size jackets is exceptionally naive. Suited, in the thrifting thread, picked up 15 sport coats from one seller, all for cheap (not because they fit him), because the seller didn't know what he had. And perhaps he bid multiple times on some of them to ward off other potential bidders? Who knows.
Either way, it's very hard to determine if a seller is shill bidding, but trusting the system and the free market economics, determine what you are willing to pay and try and snipe it. If you pay less, you have a small bonus; if you pay that price, you paid the price you were willing to pay.
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Brianpore, Wes, ty for the tip on the regional box for shipping. Seems like a much better option. Just to clarify, is it the A1 seen here that you will typically use for sc/suits?:

 

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?categoryNavIds=catGetMailingShippingSupplies%3asubcatMSS_RegionalRate&categoryNav=false&navAction=push&navCount=0&productId=P_RRB_A1&categoryId=subcatMSS_RegionalRate

 

Also, I'm assuming that during the process of purchasing shipping and printing the label Ebay will auto select the correct rate based on zone. Am I correct?

 

Thanks!

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It was not another buyer faking a shill account to ward off other buyers because they tried to hide the shilling by bidding randomly on other items from other sellers. And its not typical for actual newbies to do what concealed suggested... Something fishy was definitely going on with that auction. Though I will concede that it might not have been the seller who was behind it. I won the item, paid for it, and reported it to Ebay to let them figure it out.

 

I still think that the seller was shilling. I had messaged him before the auction. He must have checked my feedback history to try to determine my marginal value for that item because my winning bid was coincidentally around the same as I'd paid for similar items. The (shill) bidding stopped almost immediately after the price had reached that point.I know that correlation =/= causation but again there are too many coincidences, and the simplest explanation for all the suspicious bidding patterns is that the seller was shilling. 

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how can you tell it was the same bidder?

 

30-Day Bid History
 

Odzież, Buty i Dodatki > Koszule weekendowe
 

 

Kleidung & Accessoires > Jeans    
Clothes, Shoes & Accessories > Coats & Jackets    
Clothes, Shoes & Accessories > Coats & Jackets      
Clothes, Shoes & Accessories > Coats & Jackets    
Clothes, Shoes & Accessories > Coats & Jackets    
Kleidung & Accessoires > Shorts & Bermudas
Abbigliamento e accessori > Abbigliamento per lo sport  
Clothes, Shoes & Accessories > Coats & Jackets
 

They all have similar bidding history and patterns (abnormally high 30 day bid count given a low feedback score, high retraction count, and they bid in the exact same increments). And they are all from Germany as evidenced by the German text in their bid history page. German text shows for items that are listed ONLY on the German Ebay site. English is for items that are listed internationally (including the German site)

 

I know its not conclusive but its convincing enough for me. The weird thing is that this item ships from the UK. This is a very obvious indicator that the seller used a German proxy ip address.

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It was not another buyer faking a shill account to ward off other buyers because they tried to hide the shilling by bidding randomly on other items from other sellers. And its not typical for actual newbies to do what concealed suggested... Something fishy was definitely going on with that auction. Though I will concede that it might not have been the seller who was behind it. I won the item, paid for it, and reported it to Ebay to let them figure it out.

 

 

 

puzzled.gif I am so confused.

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