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post #3151 of 18234
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Originally Posted by capnwes View Post

I have a similar instance, but not really the same.

 

Bought these....for a flip of course.

ALDEN CORDOVAN TASSEL DRESS LOAFERS 10.5B/D

A bit bummed that the seller didn't state that the soles are so thin they are unwearable without having repairs done.

 

I contacted him, politely explaining my unexpected disappointment. He said he was sorry I was not happy. He said I could return them, despite not having a return policy. I don't want to return them since the uppers are still in great shape. I really just want him to take responsibility for the information he left out, whether intentionally or not. Not even really pressing for a partial refund since they are not for me (although I think one would be in order), just a proper acceptance of fault. The condition will surely affect my bottom line, since I have the condition listed accurately. Maybe I should have asked if the soles were thin enough to push my fingers through....but I didn't. Seller has higher feedback than I do, I figured he would have mentioned that....my bad on that one.

 

What would the group do?

 

 

 If they're consistant, they will say it's your fault and to move on.

post #3152 of 18234
Definitely push for partial refund Wes, that's some bullshit.
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Edited by VLSI - 4/29/13 at 5:45pm
post #3153 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Good, block me and I'll block you on Ebay.

 

 

You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Misrepresenting an item is just as bad a lying about what it is. Violating TOS is violating TOS.

 

I will never do business with anyone on this forum again. I will only deal locally or on Ebay. Feel free to block me, ban me, I personally don't give a flying fudge.

That's kinda over the top really. A couple people disagree with you and you refuse to do business with them? All they did was give you an honest opinion.

 

On the matter you posted, I'd have to say, I kinda disagree with the group, and am glad you are getting a refund. Not to sure about the incorrect ship from location deal since I've never run across that one, but a seller definitely should know what they are selling, or understand that by taking the chance of selling items they are not familiar with, comes the risk of having a few returns. A little research on his end before listing would have probably helped him avoid the whole thing. The only tip I really have for your end, is that you seemed a little harsh in your communication....but that's just me.

post #3154 of 18234

Perhaps... Can I blame the Irish heritage?

 

I'm happy the seller offered and granted a refund. I would do the same in the case if I were on the other side, and I have been.

 

I sold a pair of Crockett & Jones shoes a few months ago that I thought were brown. Buyer opened a case because they were burgundy. I granted refund, and resold them after I got them back. My normal policy is no refunds, but there are cases where they are justified and freely given.

 

 Maybe I'm harsh in communication online. But I had a very strong sense that I was being played by the seller. I've seen three different names for their business, along with three different locations. They claimed no knowledge, but then stated they had talked to someone with knowledge. They went from no refunds to offering a full refund within the span of 30 minutes. This whole thing reeks of two-week old rotting mackerel.

 

 That being said, I still reported them for violating TOS for item location misrepresentation. There was no communication beforehand that the item was coming from Poland rather than England. If I had seen that, I would have cancelled the transaction.

post #3155 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Perhaps... Can I blame the Irish heritage?

 

 

Yes this is a valid argument. Being from Irish descent, I too have to pull in the reigns sometimes before I send an email. If I don't, I can inadvertently cut pretty deeply with my sharp keyboard sword.

post #3156 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Good, block me and I'll block you on Ebay.

 

 

You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Misrepresenting an item is just as bad a lying about what it is. Violating TOS is violating TOS.

 

I will never do business with anyone on this forum again. I will only deal locally or on Ebay. Feel free to block me, ban me, I personally don't give a flying fudge.

If you're serious, just let me know your ebay name and I'll add you to the black list...boxing[1].gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

This isn't an issue of age, it's of misrepresentation.

 

 I'll try to put it in a way you might understand:

 

 Let's say that a seller lists a suit. Let's say that in the picture it appears to be a 3/2 Roll. Do you still question the seller to make sure it's a 3/2? If you don't, and you buy and it turns out to be a hard 3-button, do you have a case of an item being misrepresented, or did you do something wrong?

 

 This is perhaps an over-simplification... Again, I don't expect anyone here to know the difference between a leather chamois and a synthetic chamois, just know that the Assos shorts of 20 years ago are not of the same quality and comfort as the modern ones.

 

 Obviously, the seller has recognized that he/she is partially at fault, and has given me a full refund. I will be shipping them off to jolly old England later today.

 

 Yes, I've learned my lesson about reading the listings. And yes, I did report the seller for violating TOS. It may not be the direct issue here, but it is an issue. I should have noticed that and not bid on the item in the first place.

The seller one adknowledges hes at fault because ebay made him and gave you a refund because ebay makes him. Real world = you get no refund because you messed up here buddy. As you said, he shipped from a different location...which was the only way you can win, which IMO is BS.

 

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Originally Posted by VLSI View Post

Sounds like that's to my benefit. If roles were reversed and the seller was the poster here, you would have just earned your place on the blacklist.

+1

 

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Originally Posted by capnwes View Post

I have a similar instance, but not really the same.

 

Bought these....for a flip of course.

ALDEN CORDOVAN TASSEL DRESS LOAFERS 10.5B/D

A bit bummed that the seller didn't state that the soles are so thin they are unwearable without having repairs done.

 

I contacted him, politely explaining my unexpected disappointment. He said he was sorry I was not happy. He said I could return them, despite not having a return policy. I don't want to return them since the uppers are still in great shape. I really just want him to take responsibility for the information he left out, whether intentionally or not. Not even really pressing for a partial refund since they are not for me (although I think one would be in order), just a proper acceptance of fault. The condition will surely affect my bottom line, since I have the condition listed accurately. Maybe I should have asked if the soles were thin enough to push my fingers through....but I didn't. Seller has higher feedback than I do, I figured he would have mentioned that....my bad on that one.

 

What would the group do?

No downside to ask for a partial refund because you need to get them resoled (I ask for discounts all the time in all stores), but if he says no thanks, or only gives the option for a full refund to return them, then up to you if you want to keep them or not. Taking a 2nd look at the pictures they do appear to be very thin and worn out.

post #3157 of 18234

Hmm, I guess that pair of 28x28 NWT 1944 LVC Denim is going somewhere else...

post #3158 of 18234

Don't give me that "real world versus online world" stuff, without Ebay, this sort of crap never happens... Professional sellers accurately describe their products, and they stand by the descriptions. If I saw these shorts at a swap meet, I wouldn't look twice or consider buying them. I went to a swap meet yesterday, and bought three pairs of shorts that were of far superior quality for a fraction of the auction price. This guy can still offer to send them to the #2 bidder, who bid $1 less than me. And you know what? The same thing's going to happen when that buyer gets the item.

 

 

If you burn me, I will fight back.

post #3159 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Hmm, I guess that pair of 28x28 NWT 1944 LVC Denim is going somewhere else...


Wow, you are bitter.

post #3160 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Good, block me and I'll block you on Ebay.


You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Misrepresenting an item is just as bad a lying about what it is. Violating TOS is violating TOS.

I will never do business with anyone on this forum again. I will only deal locally or on Ebay. Feel free to block me, ban me, I personally don't give a flying fudge.

Give me your ebay name so I can block you.
post #3161 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Don't give me that "real world versus online world" stuff, without Ebay, this sort of crap never happens... Professional sellers accurately describe their products, and they stand by the descriptions. If I saw these shorts at a swap meet, I wouldn't look twice or consider buying them. I went to a swap meet yesterday, and bought three pairs of shorts that were of far superior quality for a fraction of the auction price. This guy can still offer to send them to the #2 bidder, who bid $1 less than me. And you know what? The same thing's going to happen when that buyer gets the item.


If you burn me, I will fight back.

But you're getting your money back. I can understand the frustration of getting an item that doesn't meet your needs, but unless the seller specifically claimed they were new bike shorts and/or exclusively sells them and would have the specific knowledge to identify different linings, I think they took appropriate action.

And in regards to that location thing, I always thought that was built in to stop sellers from jacking up prices for calculated shipping. If it was a flat rate, or the seller didnt charge more to ship from Poland vs England, I don't see the point in getting bent out of shape about origin points.
post #3162 of 18234
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

Hmm, I guess that pair of 28x28 NWT 1944 LVC Denim is going somewhere else...


Wow, you are bitter.

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post #3163 of 18234

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post #3164 of 18234
I think Fueco has a bit of French in, ala Frenchy!
post #3165 of 18234
I'm currently in line at the PO to send an item to jolly olde England... I'm reminded why I don't sell international!
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