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 So, here's the email thread from between 2243 and 2315 this evening (except the first... I opened the case around 1700 today).


I can't say that I am on your side with this one.

+1....take a step back and look at it from his point of view....item pictured (even with a bad picture and no description), buyer asked no questions, angry buyer....hmmm thats odd.

 

Where he ships it from has no bearing as to the item you bid on and received IMO. I ship from multiple states when I travel to help expedite the shipping process.

 

 

 I recognize that I share partial blame on this one. But This dude was definitely hiding what the shorts were. YES, I should have asked for clarification, or more pictures. The ONLY case I have is on misrepresentation of the item's location. I could care less about shipping the item back to England... It's just another package to drop at the Post Office today. I don't even care about the postage price.

 

 I don't ship outside the US for my sales, perhaps I need to do the same with my purchases?

 

 I'm not asking any of you to be on my side. But please, for the love of God, don't lie about where you're at, misrepresent what you have, and don't sell crap (crap products, that is) on Ebay.

post #3137 of 15918
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Can you guys look at this auction and maybe get me some tips to get better results? I really felt that I would get better final price...retail on these is $595 and just missing the shoelaces. Better description? Poor title? Or maybe it was the dog?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151030262345?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649


Thanks in advance!



Even though those are from a well known designer they are a bit off the mainstream in styling. IME BIN will bring a higher price for shoes and boots if you don't mind waiting.

And I also think that ebay is in a pricing downswing right now. I was getting more for auction items a few months ago.
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I can't say that I am on your side with this one.
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Hans, 80 new listings in a week is nothing to be ashamed of, that's a lot.

Similar story to Spoo.

Sunday:
Sleep in a bit 8 or so. Shit ton of photos and measurements. I have recruited my wife occasionally to write down measurements. Pull items that will sell that night for shipping.
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Monday:
Leave for work by 6 (hour drive). Thrift for lunch. Any down time is spent making listings of the stuff measured Sunday. Hit a thrift on the way home. Process orders for 24 hour shipping. If there is any time left, which there seldom is, more photos and measurements. In bed by 1 AM if I'm lucky.

Tuesday:
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Finish up orders for 24 hour shipping. More pics and measures. In bed by Midnight.

Wednesday:
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""". Hit my Wednesday night thrift loop. Any straggler shipping orders. More pics and measures. In bed by Midnight.

Thursday:
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""". Hit a thrift on the way home. Finish up 10 day listings for the week, all scheduled to start between 11-11:30 PM EST. In bed by midnight

Friday:...my favorite day!
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""". Work half day. Go on a big ass crazy 8 hour thrift adventure. One or two of 4 different routes. Go out for dinner or something nice with the wifey, after I bore her to death showing her all my finds.

Saturday:
Sleep in a bit....maybe 8 or so. House/Yard work...if we are not travelling. Maybe a thrift or two with the wifey. Afternoon cool down with tons of pics and measurements.
Repeat!

Still have a pretty good social life on the weekends believe it or not. 


Wow, that's insane! It pays for itself, but I have to say that I'm really impressed with your schedule!
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 So, here's the email thread from between 2243 and 2315 this evening (except the first... I opened the case around 1700 today).


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I can't say that I am on your side with this one.

I'm the same. I read the situation twice to better understand what's going on with it, but it seems he did send you what was pictured, regardless if it was supposed to be the UK/Netherlands/Poland. It seems you're upset that they're not what you wanted them to be, but I'm not sure who's to blame on that, possibly both of you? I don't know anything about biking and/or its equipment, so maybe that's also part of it. I also didn't see the listing for the item.

Having said that, shouldn't you have emailed the seller before buying if you weren't 100% sure they were the recent ones? He may have written the auction to sound as though they were, but unless he lied about something, I would just take him up on his offer to refund part of it.

 

There was absolutely no reason to suspect that these were super-old shorts with synthetic padding. Those have not been made for at least 20 years. Bike shorts don't last forever, like most items of clothing, if they aren't worn. The chamois dries out and becomes brittle, for one thing. The new padding in shorts doesn't have this problem, therefor anything with a synthetic chamois would be "Great Quality".

 

 I don't expect all of you to understand the details here... But this is a seller who primarily sell clothing items, and clearly didn't know what he/she had. I guess the lesson here is to only sell things you know about (or know someone who knows) and to thoroughly go over auction listings and the item descriptions.

 

He implied that they were new ones by listing them like this:

 

ASSOS SWISS MADE - GREAT BIB SHORTS

 
 
Great quality!
 
 
 
The size on the label says LARGE
 
 
 
 
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There was absolutely no reason to suspect that these were super-old shorts with synthetic padding. Those have not been made for at least 20 years. Bike shorts don't last forever, like most items of clothing, if they aren't worn. The chamois dries out and becomes brittle, for one thing. The new padding in shorts doesn't have this problem, therefor anything with a synthetic chamois would be "Great Quality".

 

 I don't expect all of you to understand the details here... But this is a seller who primarily sell clothing items, and clearly didn't know what he/she had. I guess the lesson here is to only sell things you know about (or know someone who knows) and to thoroughly go over auction listings and the item descriptions.

 

He implied that they were new ones by listing them like this:

 

ASSOS SWISS MADE - GREAT BIB SHORTS

 
 
Great quality!
 
 
 
The size on the label says LARGE
 
 
 
 


I still am not seeing how he claimed they are "new ones." Pardon my ignorance. Additionally, eBay has added a place to upload more photographs to prospective buyers. When in doubt, just ask. If the seller doesn't answer and/or send additional photographs, then don't purchase items from that seller. Again, pardon my ignorance, but I am still unable to see how the seller misrepresented the item.

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Fueco, you have two options. Realize you fucked up and move on with your life. Be bitch, extort eBay policy, and steal the seller's money. You're wrong on this one. There it is, ball is in your court.


For what it's worth, I have no clue how old the suits I sell are. Some are dated and super out of style. It's not my issue.
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This isn't an issue of age, it's of misrepresentation.

 

 I'll try to put it in a way you might understand:

 

 Let's say that a seller lists a suit. Let's say that in the picture it appears to be a 3/2 Roll. Do you still question the seller to make sure it's a 3/2? If you don't, and you buy and it turns out to be a hard 3-button, do you have a case of an item being misrepresented, or did you do something wrong?

 

 This is perhaps an over-simplification... Again, I don't expect anyone here to know the difference between a leather chamois and a synthetic chamois, just know that the Assos shorts of 20 years ago are not of the same quality and comfort as the modern ones.

 

 Obviously, the seller has recognized that he/she is partially at fault, and has given me a full refund. I will be shipping them off to jolly old England later today.

 

 Yes, I've learned my lesson about reading the listings. And yes, I did report the seller for violating TOS. It may not be the direct issue here, but it is an issue. I should have noticed that and not bid on the item in the first place.

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Fueco, you have two options. Realize you fucked up and move on with your life. Be bitch, extort eBay policy, and steal the seller's money. You're wrong on this one. There it is, ball is in your court.


For what it's worth, I have no clue how old the suits I sell are. Some are dated and super out of style. It's not my issue.

 

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And put on some FU Plaid and tell you to FO?

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It's been posted before, you can find it. Truth hurts I guess.
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Whatever.

 

I'm happy not to do business with you here or on Ebay.

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Sounds like that's to my benefit. If roles were reversed and the seller was the poster here, you would have just earned your place on the blacklist.
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 I recognize that I share partial blame on this one. But This dude was definitely hiding what the shorts were. YES, I should have asked for clarification, or more pictures. The ONLY case I have is on misrepresentation of the item's location. I could care less about shipping the item back to England... It's just another package to drop at the Post Office today. I don't even care about the postage price.

 I don't ship outside the US for my sales, perhaps I need to do the same with my purchases?

 I'm not asking any of you to be on my side. But please, for the love of God, don't lie about where you're at, misrepresent what you have, and don't sell crap (crap products, that is) on Ebay.

Your only case is based on an irrelevant fact. You are wrong. If you want to be a PITA and abuse ebay policies then nobody can stop you from doing that. However this is the wrong place to look for validation of your tactics.

If you are not looking for someone to be on your side then why did you post the story?
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This is my full time job, plus I'm a stay at home Dad. It's just like anything else work hard. When I post hard I start at 4AM and finish at 11PM. I do that 2 days a week. You have to set up a rhythm that works the fastest for you, for example I set pictures by size, brand, and colors. So when I'm posting I just go to sell similar and then usually all the sizes and colors usually stay the same, I just have to upload the pics. icon_gu_b_slayer%5B1%5D.gif

+1 for Sell Similar. If I have a number of shirts to list then I:
1. Do only shirts. Don't jump back and forth between different categories of items.
2. Organize them into similar groups. All Made in USA together. All Made in Malaysia together.
3. Organize further. All USA Golden Fleece together. All USA OCBD's together. All USA Luxury Line together, etc.
4. Sell Similar is a huge time saver this way.
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Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

This isn't an issue of age, it's of misrepresentation.

 

 I'll try to put it in a way you might understand:

 

 Let's say that a seller lists a suit. Let's say that in the picture it appears to be a 3/2 Roll. Do you still question the seller to make sure it's a 3/2? If you don't, and you buy and it turns out to be a hard 3-button, do you have a case of an item being misrepresented, or did you do something wrong?

 

 This is perhaps an over-simplification... Again, I don't expect anyone here to know the difference between a leather chamois and a synthetic chamois, just know that the Assos shorts of 20 years ago are not of the same quality and comfort as the modern ones.

 

 Obviously, the seller has recognized that he/she is partially at fault, and has given me a full refund. I will be shipping them off to jolly old England later today.

 

 Yes, I've learned my lesson about reading the listings. And yes, I did report the seller for violating TOS. It may not be the direct issue here, but it is an issue. I should have noticed that and not bid on the item in the first place.

For what it's worth, I agree with everyone else on your issue. If I bought a jacket because I suspected it was a 3/2 roll, but the seller made no indication to that fact, and it arrived as a hard 3 I would accept that my assumptions were wrong and move on. 

However, I find it very disturbing that after providing you a full refund, you still reported him just because of his geographic location. Had any of the sellers on this thread, you included, explained a situation where, because eBay sides with buyers most of the time, he had awarded a full refund AGAINST his stated policy for something he hadn't really done, and then the buyer STILL reported him or slammed him on feedback everyone would be blacklisting that buyer.


Edited by SeaJen - 4/29/13 at 11:35am
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I have a similar instance, but not really the same.

 

Bought these....for a flip of course.

ALDEN CORDOVAN TASSEL DRESS LOAFERS 10.5B/D

A bit bummed that the seller didn't state that the soles are so thin they are unwearable without having repairs done.

 

I contacted him, politely explaining my unexpected disappointment. He said he was sorry I was not happy. He said I could return them, despite not having a return policy. I don't want to return them since the uppers are still in great shape. I really just want him to take responsibility for the information he left out, whether intentionally or not. Not even really pressing for a partial refund since they are not for me (although I think one would be in order), just a proper acceptance of fault. The condition will surely affect my bottom line, since I have the condition listed accurately. Maybe I should have asked if the soles were thin enough to push my fingers through....but I didn't. Seller has higher feedback than I do, I figured he would have mentioned that....my bad on that one.

 

What would the group do?

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Good, block me and I'll block you on Ebay.

 

 

You people are a bunch of hypocrites. Misrepresenting an item is just as bad a lying about what it is. Violating TOS is violating TOS.

 

I will never do business with anyone on this forum again. I will only deal locally or on Ebay. Feel free to block me, ban me, I personally don't give a flying fudge.

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