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post #26626 of 30503
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Originally Posted by suited View Post
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Go get this shit - talk about idiotic buyers...

A buyer messages me about a shirt. The username has "dmontez" in it. His tone is a red flag. He submits low ball offers and I decline them. He runs out of offers. I block his username. A couple hours later I get an offer on the same shirt from a different user. I decline the offer and assume it's the same guy trying to bid from a different account, but I can't block this second username because I'm driving. Both usernames have hardly any feedback. Before I can get home he submits an offer on the shirt that is automatically accepted by the auction. I know I'm going to cancel the order as soon as I get home, and when I start the process my suspicions are confirmed when I see the shipping address is Desi Montez.

He sends me a message asking why his order was canceled and I tell him that I canceled it because he tried to buy the shirt from multiple accounts. It's nothing personal, I tell him, I'm just protecting myself as a seller and both myself and eBay believe this behavior is a red flag (I had already called eBay).

He responds by saying "You must have me confused with someone else, this is the first time I've messaged you." I point out that both of his accounts are connected via the one username being dmontez and the shipping address on the other account being Desi Montez. I also told him that his dishonesty on the matter reinforces why I canceled the order. He responds:

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Obviously your decision to make, but the guy's actually pretty active over on AAAC.  He's a good guy from my experiences with him, and I'm surprised y'all got off on the wrong foot like this. I've bought from and sold to him through the thrift thread over there and never had any issues.

post #26627 of 30503
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Originally Posted by Nobleprofessor View Post

I am having trouble figuring out the size of an Oxxford Sport Coat

P2P 23"
Shoulder 18" 
30.5 BOC. 

The 23" P2P doesn't make sense with a shoulder of only 18? 

Makes sense if bespoke.
post #26628 of 30503
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Originally Posted by Nobleprofessor View Post
 

I am having trouble figuring out the size of an Oxxford Sport Coat

 

P2P 23"

Shoulder 18" 

30.5 BOC. 

 

The 23" P2P doesn't make sense with a shoulder of only 18? 

 

Not too odd if it's a particularly natural shoulder. My preference is for about an 18.5" shoulder and a 22.5-23" P2P on something slouchy and unstructured like a sack.

post #26629 of 30503
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Originally Posted by vexco View Post


Makes sense if bespoke.

 

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Originally Posted by ReubenR View Post
 

 

Not too odd if it's a particularly natural shoulder. My preference is for about an 18.5" shoulder and a 22.5-23" P2P on something slouchy and unstructured like a sack.

 

 

Ok. Yes, I agree it is probably bespoke because that would be a pretty small shoulder measurement for a P2P of 23.   

 

Reuben, it is a very natural shoulder, so perhaps that makes the difference. 

 

But, what size do I list it? 

 

I was thinking 44?  But, usually a 44 has a shoulder closer to 19.5.  

post #26630 of 30503
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Originally Posted by Nobleprofessor View Post
 

 

 

 

Ok. Yes, I agree it is probably bespoke because that would be a pretty small shoulder measurement for a P2P of 23.   

 

Reuben, it is a very natural shoulder, so perhaps that makes the difference. 

 

But, what size do I list it? 

 

I was thinking 44?  But, usually a 44 has a shoulder closer to 19.5.  

 

Nah, most of the jackets in my closet are tagged a 43-44 and have a shoulder under 19". I say list it as a 44R.

post #26631 of 30503
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Originally Posted by ReubenR View Post

Obviously your decision to make, but the guy's actually pretty active over on AAAC.  He's a good guy from my experiences with him, and I'm surprised y'all got off on the wrong foot like this. I've bought from and sold to him through the thrift thread over there and never had any issues.


His behavior would lead me to believe he is anything but a "good guy." Let's see - first account has a username dmontez, the other account has a shipping address with the name Desi Montez, and both accounts tried to bid on the same item within an hour or two. Once he knew that I discovered his lie, he claimed the connection between the two accounts was pure coincidence. Sorry, but it takes a belligerently stupid human being to stick to such an obvious lie. I have absolutely no respect for people like that.
post #26632 of 30503
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Originally Posted by suited View Post


His behavior would lead me to believe he is anything but a "good guy." Let's see - first account has a username dmontez, the other account has a shipping address with the name Desi Montez, and both accounts tried to bid on the same item within an hour or two. Once he knew that I discovered his lie, he claimed the connection between the two accounts was pure coincidence. Sorry, but it takes a belligerently stupid human being to stick to such an obvious lie. I have absolutely no respect for people like that.

 

Or he could have just been fucking with you for being snarky towards the original offer. For what it's worth after I used all 3 of my offers that ebay allows, I jumped over to my sisters ebay account to find out I was only 2 dollars away from "auto accept" instead of "auto decline" I made the payment immediately, and its your choice not continue the transaction, which is fine with me. 

 

I like to think that I am a decent guy, but YMMV.

post #26633 of 30503
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Originally Posted by suited View Post


His behavior would lead me to believe he is anything but a "good guy." Let's see - first account has a username dmontez, the other account has a shipping address with the name Desi Montez, and both accounts tried to bid on the same item within an hour or two. Once he knew that I discovered his lie, he claimed the connection between the two accounts was pure coincidence. Sorry, but it takes a belligerently stupid human being to stick to such an obvious lie. I have absolutely no respect for people like that.


Desi is a great guy. He does a lot of work for local charities and offers good advice to people on AAAC. I am sure there is a logical explanation for what happened. I will personally vouch for his character (and that is not something that I take lightly).

 

***edit*** Dmontez made a cameo appearance before I sent my post.

post #26634 of 30503

@Nobleprofessor , I'd call it a 44 Short.

post #26635 of 30503
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Originally Posted by suited View Post


His behavior would lead me to believe he is anything but a "good guy." Let's see - first account has a username dmontez, the other account has a shipping address with the name Desi Montez, and both accounts tried to bid on the same item within an hour or two. Once he knew that I discovered his lie, he claimed the connection between the two accounts was pure coincidence. Sorry, but it takes a belligerently stupid human being to stick to such an obvious lie. I have absolutely no respect for people like that.

 

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Originally Posted by Desi Montez View Post
 

 

Or he could have just been fucking with you for being snarky towards the original offer. For what it's worth after I used all 3 of my offers that ebay allows, I jumped over to my sisters ebay account to find out I was only 2 dollars away from "auto accept" instead of "auto decline" I made the payment immediately, and its your choice not continue the transaction, which is fine with me. 

 

I like to think that I am a decent guy, but YMMV.

 

 

This looks like the perfect reason for not throwing around insults until you know who you are dealing with and even then  . . . 

 

 

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Originally Posted by drlivingston View Post
 


Desi is a great guy. He does a lot of work for local charities and offers good advice to people on AAAC. I am sure there is a logical explanation for what happened. I will personally vouch for his character (and that is not something that I take lightly).

 

***edit*** Dmontez made a cameo appearance before I sent my post.

 

If Dr. L vouches for him, that would be enough for me.  

post #26636 of 30503
Goes to show the idiocy of getting bent out of shape about "lowball" offers. Cannot fathom why anyone would block someone for trying to buy their stuff.
post #26637 of 30503
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Originally Posted by Desi Montez View Post

Or he could have just been fucking with you for being snarky towards the original offer. For what it's worth after I used all 3 of my offers that ebay allows, I jumped over to my sisters ebay account to find out I was only 2 dollars away from "auto accept" instead of "auto decline" I made the payment immediately, and its your choice not continue the transaction, which is fine with me. 

I like to think that I am a decent guy, but YMMV.

One shirt was listed for $46 and the other was listed for $49. Each had a shipping charge of $6 (which would have been maybe $8-9 combined shipping). You messaged me and asked if I would take a total of $50 shipped for both shirts. I responded by saying "really?" which is based on the fact that your offer was 46% of the combined price, which is ridiculous. Normally I don't respond to messages like that, but felt it was necessary given the nature of your offer. You asked me why I didn't counter and my explanation was: "$50 total for both shirts is less than 50 percent of what I have them listed for. $46+49+shipping = $107. Most sellers will not respond to extremely low offers." On a personal note, I don't ever low ball buyers because it's typically a waste of their time, and mine. I wouldn't want to receive low ball offers as a seller, so naturally I don't submit them as a buyer.

You responded with: "Well, I'm only about 20.00 away from what they actually sell for, not your inflated price. Here I'll help you I'll go up to 60.00 for both shipped I'm only taking 5.00 off of what they normally sell for."

I've sold plenty of Borrelli shirts for more than what these were listed for. I priced them reasonably based on the condition, styling, etc. My price was not "inflated," so perhaps you shouldn't accuse others of having a snarky attitude.

You then submitted an offer which was declined, then submitted another offer for $1.00 more. On top of that you used another account to pull the same stuff and then lied about it when confronted. It honestly baffled me how you thought a fully grown adult could believe the connection between the two accounts was pure coincidence. C'mon, man.

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Originally Posted by Orgetorix View Post

Goes to show the idiocy of getting bent out of shape about "lowball" offers. Cannot fathom why anyone would block someone for trying to buy their stuff.

See above. It was a bit more than that.
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Originally Posted by drlivingston View Post


Desi is a great guy. He does a lot of work for local charities and offers good advice to people on AAAC. I am sure there is a logical explanation for what happened. I will personally vouch for his character (and that is not something that I take lightly).

***edit*** Dmontez made a cameo appearance before I sent my post.

I appreciate your input and I have a lot of respect for you. That's nice of him to do charity work, but it doesn't change my opinion about what happened.
post #26638 of 30503
Fine, but members here regularly post about getting deals on Ebay as good as his original offer or better, via the offer system. There is absolutely no reason, him not knowing you from Adam, for him not to make the attempt or for you to respond with a snarky "really?".
post #26639 of 30503

Suited,

 

no matter how you slice it, everything after your pissy response of "really??" was just me fucking with you. I kept bidding just to see really how far off I was. Turns out your "offers accepted" are just free shipping, which most people do anyways. 

 

Yeah I lowballed you expecting you to come back with, "I can do "x" and meeting somewhere in the middle not getting a childish response. 

post #26640 of 30503

Let's just chalk this one up to miscommunication and move forward. There is enough drama on the thrift brag thread. We don't need it on here as well.

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