or Connect
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Buying and Selling on eBay: Tips, Tricks, Problems & Questions
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Buying and Selling on eBay: Tips, Tricks, Problems & Questions - Page 1711

post #25651 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fueco View Post

I'm not willing to lower my price without an offer. I'm perfectly willing to negotiate.

I'm not willing to make an offer as some sellers take offense and think I'm trying to lowball them and ignore me although I'm willing to negotiate.
post #25652 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by LGHT View Post


Lol true it's not a negotiation until an amount has been declared, but if an item has zero offers and it isn't a great deal most buyers on eBay will more than likely never use BIN if OBO is availabile. If your not willing to list your price your probably leaving money on the table.

I recently bought a shirt after the seller finally gave me a great deal on the 3rd offer and after he got my shipping address and noticed it was to my law firm he called me a cheap skate! A dollar saved is a dollar earned and I'm as cheap as they get...

i'll put it out there.

 

what is your reasoning behind not throwing out an offer when it's clearly OBO?  

 

Fueco's response is basically my default response to those who ask "what my best price is".  My best price is for me, and it's the listed price; it might not coincide with the buyers'.  Best for the buyer to let me know what his best price is :stirpot:

post #25653 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by LGHT View Post


I'm not willing to make an offer as some sellers take offense and think I'm trying to lowball them and ignore me although I'm willing to negotiate.

and that's why there's the auto ignore function on our part.  

post #25654 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by LGHT View Post

I'm not willing to make an offer as some sellers take offense and think I'm trying to lowball them and ignore me although I'm willing to negotiate.

If you don't make offers, you're not even a part of this conversation. The seller has already stated their best price, and if the listing is BINOBO, they are showing a willingness to negotiate. If you don't want to use Ebay's formats, shop retail...
post #25655 of 30461

Is it just me or are there a lot of conversations on here that are just like "high" talk from high school? :D

post #25656 of 30461

I love me some reading comprehension. I get this message "Hello. The sport-coat I bought from you was not a 46R. I can wear a 46R off the rack (have for years) and this was at best a 44, or perhaps smaller. Otherwise it was great in every way. Can I get a refund on this item? Thanks!"

 

So I check the listing for the measurements and find why it doesn't fit a 46R

 

Tagged Size:No Label, Measures about a 40L

 

I am this close '' to getting rid of returns, I hate taking returns and haven't noticed a bump in sales since I started accepting them.

post #25657 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoeluv View Post

I love me some reading comprehension. I get this message "Hello. The sport-coat I bought from you was not a 46R. I can wear a 46R off the rack (have for years) and this was at best a 44, or perhaps smaller. Otherwise it was great in every way. Can I get a refund on this item? Thanks!"

So I check the listing for the measurements and find why it doesn't fit a 46R

Tagged Size:No Label, Measures about a 40L[/B

I provide a link to Andy Gilchrist's 'How to measure a suit' in my listings, but I am still convinced that most ebay buyers think it's too complicated.

Here is a fun one from last night. BIN listing (not OBO) on New Brooks Brothers 1818 3 piece suit, listed at $335 plus shipping.
Buyer: $200 shipped to my zip code?
I didn't respond.
1 1/2 hours later Buyer: Can you give me the front rise on the pants?

Yeah, I'll be getting right on that.
post #25658 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Van Veen View Post

Thanks. Must have been made for a stout man. 38 waist 28.5 inseam on the trou.

Sometimes the reason that a person is buying MTM is because physically they are outliers and they need this to get a good fit. So of course those suits will be unusual in some measurements and will be difficult to sell. I have scavenged buttons off Golden Fleece Custom jackets because measurements are so bad,
post #25659 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by borbor View Post
 

i'll put it out there.

 

what is your reasoning behind not throwing out an offer when it's clearly OBO?  

 

Fueco's response is basically my default response to those who ask "what my best price is".  My best price is for me, and it's the listed price; it might not coincide with the buyers'.  Best for the buyer to let me know what his best price is :stirpot:


It's quit simple actually.  Lets take a $50 Drake tie that has OBO.  I'm willing to pay $35, but I don't want to overpay so I start the offer at $25.  Most sellers will simply counter and say $45 and I counter back and say $35 and the seller counter backs at $40 and I move on because I honestly don't want to pay more than $35.  That's a lot of offers and counter offers just to get to his best price of $40 that I'm not going to pay anyway.

 

My logic is simply I ask for his best price the seller replies with $40 and I either buy or not.  Plan or simply no back and forth haggling.  If the sellers best price is the Buy it Now price why would he / she have a OBO? 

 

The problem is the arrogant seller who see's my initial offer of $25 as a "low ball" offer and don't bother to counter and simply ignore me.  Although I may be more than willing to go up to $40 I don't want to over pay, but I also don't want to piss off the seller so that's what I'm trying to avoid.

 

I've find that the "give me your best price" tactic to work out best for items that are $100 and over.  

 

Some may not agree, but it's worked time and time again.

post #25660 of 30461

Aaaarrrggghhhh!! This interminable discussion about OBO auctions. :brick:

post #25661 of 30461
@LGHT

Fair enough.

Do want to say however, ignoring a low ball offer has nothing to do with arrogance. In that light, one could also say that it is the buyer who is arrogant in thinking all offers should be entertained, regardless of how reasonable / ridiculous.
post #25662 of 30461
nm
Edited by Fueco - 1/5/16 at 9:06am
post #25663 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by LGHT View Post


It's quit simple actually.  Lets take a $50 Drake tie that has OBO.  I'm willing to pay $35, but I don't want to overpay so I start the offer at $25.  Most sellers will simply counter and say $45 and I counter back and say $35 and the seller counter backs at $40 and I move on because I honestly don't want to pay more than $35.  That's a lot of offers and counter offers just to get to his best price of $40 that I'm not going to pay anyway.

My logic is simply I ask for his best price the seller replies with $40 and I either buy or not.  Plan or simply no back and forth haggling.  If the sellers best price is the Buy it Now price why would he / she have a OBO? 

The problem is the arrogant seller who see's my initial offer of $25 as a "low ball" offer and don't bother to counter and simply ignore me.  Although I may be more than willing to go up to $40 I don't want to over pay, but I also don't want to piss off the seller so that's what I'm trying to avoid.

I've find that the "give me your best price" tactic to work out best for items that are $100 and over.  

Some may not agree, but it's worked time and time again.

Well, here's my story on this topic.

Found a rare staple tie on ebay listed for $200. Seller had OBO option, so I offered $100. He/she accepted (to my surprise).

Long story short, I'm sure alot of sellers inflate their 'buy-it-now' price while actually expecting a much lower 'real price'. Don't know if that's the case here - maybe they just wanted to unload the tie - but I was still surprised my offer was accepted.
post #25664 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianpore View Post
 

On a different note... good attempt to copy my listing but  shoe trees help and dont cut off the top of your shoe in the picture :lol:

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by MJMcRibb View Post
 

Pretty sure that's @highvoltorb

 

 

Shit. :embar: I've taken bits and pieces from all of you guys. Nothing malicious about it I promise. I do remember that when I finally started taking pictures of ties the "correct" way about a year and a half ago, every "direction" was pretty well represented by someone on the sub. I was already doing a lot of top left to bottom right pictures at the time, even my jacket and shirt pictures were usually just the bust pointed to the right side of the of the frame. So I did the same way to be consistent, and I knew they looked like yours but I figured I'd never have enough volume on my ebay page to make it a problem. I will admit that the one time I came into a dozen Trafalgar braces about a year ago I did model my listings after yours. I would have most likely done it very similarly anyway, because I was always going to do top left to bottom right and it was clear looking at the completed listings that the close up thumbnails were the ones selling. And I felt bad about it again, and I don't know if you were paying attention at the time, but I purposely did one strap pictures instead of the two strap pictures you were using and angled them a bit different because I felt bad about how close they looked. I think I did a two strap picture last time, but I think I've only found 2 pairs since then. And then of course, as I got better lighting, and a better camera, and better at photoshop, my shoe pictures looked a whole lot like yours too but I had been taking pictures of shoes from that angle since I was taking pictures of shoes on a gray t-shirt on top of carpet in my bedroom at my parents house...

 

 

 

I always do the all caps brand thing, but I know I'm not the only one.

 

Anyway, I feel pretty shitty about this.  If you feel in any way that this hurts your business, or if you're just upset about it, I will change that listing (and any others) without hesitation. I can pretty much promise you that unless I lose my day job, I'm never going to have any more 40 listings at a time up anyway. 

 

Edit: Your tie pics are the other way. I don't know who I was thinking of. 


Edited by highvoltorb - 1/5/16 at 10:42am
post #25665 of 30461
Quote:
Originally Posted by highvoltorb View Post

 

 

I do remember that when I finally started taking pictures of ties the "correct" way about a year and a half ago, every "direction" was pretty well represented

 

 

I know that most of the big boyz do it. However, I just can't bring myself to putting a knot in a new tie for a photograph, even if it is just a pseudo-knot.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Classic Menswear
Styleforum › Forums › Men's Style › Classic Menswear › Buying and Selling on eBay: Tips, Tricks, Problems & Questions