Your first response was from the most respected member of this thread, and one of, if not, the most respected members of this entire forum. The fact that @SpooPoker
responded pretty much negated the necessity of anyone else responding. He's been doing this far longer than anyone else here, as far as I know. He's been doing it so long he used to shoot pictures with film and get the negatives scanned, ferfuckssake! Why should you even question his answer?
Too kind of you man. And yes, I took pictures with my disposable camera, dropped it off to the drug store, then scanned the photos and uploaded them to eBay. It took about 2 weeks to do 10 auctions lol.
Hey, @colco - check it - nobody wants to come here for beef, least of all me. theres a pretty small group of about 10-20 of us that post here on the regular and have been talking about this stuff for years. You know that bar down the block in your neighborhood that you all go to? And when a new guy walks in, everyones heads turn. If the guy walks into the bar, acts cool, has a few brews with the locals and eases into the convo, easy peasy. If the guy comes in like Begbie in Trainspotting with guns blazing, well, not probably the best reactions follow.
All I'm saying is maybe just take a different approach to a response and lets take another shot at helping you with your question is all. We've got collectively lots and lots of info to share that we can all benefit from - just more flies with honey and all that.
So, to get back on topic - even if I had a jacket without buttons on the sleeves - no, I probably wouldn't list it as NWOT unless I was the first owner. Most of the things I sell are not single provenance pieces, so I can't "prove" anything. Theres tons of lawyers here on the forum, and whenever Im creating a listing, I always think to myself - "what can I PROVE if tested?" Is it blue? Yes. Is it used? Yes. Does it have a hole? Yes. But I don't call it a "Tiny" hole, because that leaves something open to debate. You get my point? Could a jacket be used and not have the buttons on its sleeves? Probably not. But not definitely not.
Next drinks on me.