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You can't win with some buyers. They just don't read or look at the photos. I had a guy last week ask me if the pants are pleated or flat front in this listing. There are 3 indications of the pants style. Title, description, and photo.

Hickey Freeman Suit Wool Loro Piana 120s 42R 36/31 Dark Gray Pleated Cuffed EUC

Once you get a few more feedbacks in front of them, no one will even notice them. Just in case someone were to see them in the future, I would do a feedback response, reminding buyers to be sure to check the measurements provided in the listing.

It is strange that the HF was tagged Large at that measured size. That would be big enough for me. I wonder how big a XL would be. Sweet coat though! Surprised it didn't go for a lot more.

I thought I would post this for those that are interested in tracking their profits in excel, but don't use excel very often. If any excel junkies notice any errors, please let me know. Also, if anyone notices any errors in what I have eBay and PayPal charging for fees, also let me know.

Please reference the photo below when looking at formulas:

Formula for Final Value Fee for Buy it Now when the item sold + shipping was greater than \$50:

=IF(AND(E2="BIN",B2+K2>50),50*0.1+(B2+K2-50)*0.08,0)

- Cell E2 is the cell in which I type either the word Auction or the letters BIN
- Cell B2 is the Sale Price
- Cell K2 is the Shipping Charged to Buyer

Final Value Fee for Buy It Now when the item sold + shipping charged to buyer was less than \$50:

=IF(AND(E2="BIN",(B2+K2)<50),(B2+K2)*0.1,0)

PayPal Fees:

=IF(B2>0,(B2+K2)*0.029+0.3,"")

- Cell B2 is Sale Price
- Cell K2 is Shipping Charged to Buyer

Final Value Fee for Auction Style Listing:

=IF(E2="Auction",(B2+K2)*0.09,0)

- Again, in cell E2 I would type either the word Auction or the letters BIN
- Same as above (B2 is sale price and k2 is shipping charged to buyer)

Below is an example of how you could setup a spreadsheet to calculate your profit on any given item. All of the formulas I have listed match this example:

Formula in Profit cell:

=IF(B2>0,(B2+K2)-M2,"")

Formula in Total Costs cell:

=IF(B2>0,C2+F2+G2+H2+I2+J2+L2,C2)

The rest of the numbers are manually typed in, no formulas.
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Originally Posted by GMMcL

Frustration with ebay and piss-ant ebay buyers grows. I've now had two in a row positive feedbacks that say "tagged X measures Y." In both instances, I provided accurate measurements AS WELL AS pictures of the actual label. How much should I care about this?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=gregbigmac&ftab=AllFeedback

I wouldn't worry about it. It is positive feedback. In a week it will be buried and nobody will read it again.
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Originally Posted by capnwes

Sweet coat though! Surprised it didn't go for a lot more.
Inorite? He's bitching because he got an awesome HF hunting jacket for \$20!
Anyway, thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by suited

I thought I would post this for those that are interested in tracking their profits in excel, but don't use excel very often. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If any excel junkies notice any errors, please let me know. Also, if anyone notices any errors in what I have eBay and PayPal charging for fees, also let me know.

Please reference the photo below when looking at formulas:

Formula for Final Value Fee for Buy it Now when the item sold + shipping was greater than \$50:

=IF(AND(E2="BIN",B2+K2>50),50*0.1+(B2+K2-50)*0.08,0)

- Cell E2 is the cell in which I type either the word Auction or the letters BIN
- Cell B2 is the Sale Price
- Cell K2 is the Shipping Charged to Buyer

Final Value Fee for Buy It Now when the item sold + shipping charged to buyer was less than \$50:

=IF(AND(E2="BIN",(B2+K2)<50),(B2+K2)*0.1,0)

PayPal Fees:

=IF(B2>0,(B2+K2)*0.029+0.3,"")

- Cell B2 is Sale Price
- Cell K2 is Shipping Charged to Buyer

Final Value Fee for Auction Style Listing:

=IF(E2="Auction",(B2+K2)*0.09,0)

- Again, in cell E2 I would type either the word Auction or the letters BIN
- Same as above (B2 is sale price and k2 is shipping charged to buyer)

Below is an example of how you could setup a spreadsheet to calculate your profit on any given item. All of the formulas I have listed match this example:

Formula in Profit cell:

=IF(B2>0,(B2+K2)-M2,"")

Formula in Total Costs cell:

=IF(B2>0,C2+F2+G2+H2+I2+J2+L2,C2)

The rest of the numbers are manually typed in, no formulas.

Wow. A lot to digest here. Personally, I just multiply my final value fee plus shipping times 0.099 (plus any listing fees) for the Ebay fee, and 0.049 for the paypal fee. I'm sure that's a bit too high for auctions, since I get the discounts, and possibly too low for fixed price listings. But it's close enough for government work.

I'm the office excel guru (accountant in my day job) and I'll check out the excel tonight. iPhone screen too small to make sense of stuff.
After glancing back over that I should clarify - I am NOT the guy that left crappy feedback for GMMcL, I just read the posts and it screamed meme to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMMcL

Frustration with ebay and piss-ant ebay buyers grows. I've now had two in a row positive feedbacks that say "tagged X measures Y." In both instances, I provided accurate measurements AS WELL AS pictures of the actual label. How much should I care about this?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=gregbigmac&ftab=AllFeedback

Probably just buyers who didnt quite yet accepted their sizing was upgraded after the xmas period.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMMcL

Inorite? He's bitching because he got an awesome HF hunting jacket for \$20!
Anyway, thanks guys.
Wow. A lot to digest here. Personally, I just multiply my final value fee plus shipping times 0.099 (plus any listing fees) for the Ebay fee, and 0.049 for the paypal fee. I'm sure that's a bit too high for auctions, since I get the discounts, and possibly too low for fixed price listings. But it's close enough for government work.

I suppose I went a little crazy, but I enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by capnwes

If I wasn't so bald already I would be pulling out more hair!

When that Java shit acts up, that is so frustrating. Ive had that happen a few times.
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Originally Posted by HansderHund

Background: I see many people on ebay that use no background or use a bed sheet. These work in some situations, but I wanted something blank so it wouldn't be distracting. One afternoon I built a simple background. It consists of a wooden frame, fabric and a couple of hinges. It works well and is easy to put away. I also have a stained piece of wood(not pictured) that I use for the "flooring" of the photo and to photograph small items.

Details:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I used 15mmx30mm wood and L brackets to build the frames. I had a specific size in mind, so I made two separate frames, one 100cmx 63cm and the other 100cmx50cm. I used leftover white fabric to cover it and stapled it in place. I added four small hinges to the side so it would fold for storage. I had the materials around the house, so it was cheap to make. If you'd like to save some time, you could also buy a couple of blank art canvases and add hinges.

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I want everything to be easy to prepare but also to store it when it's not in use. Here is the final result. I know the photos/presentation doesn't measure up to a lot of the guys around here, but it's always a work in progress. Note that I didn't crop/edit the photos as I would before listing. The "flooring" of the photo is also missing, but it gives you an idea.

Very helpful post! Big fan of the background and may consider it. As an idea (I'm no expert), if the frames lacked cross beams, and you used moslin and lit behind the background, your lighting could be drastically improved. As this would work as a light tent.
Sold a pair of running shoes to a buyer in Italy...so what do I need to do with shipping it? do they really check on this kind of stuff? Seems odd that shoes would be on the "banned" list.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMMcL

Frustration with ebay and piss-ant ebay buyers grows. I've now had two in a row positive feedbacks that say "tagged X measures Y." In both instances, I provided accurate measurements AS WELL AS pictures of the actual label. How much should I care about this?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=gregbigmac&ftab=AllFeedback

Quote:
Originally Posted by capnwes

You can't win with some buyers. They just don't read or look at the photos. I had a guy last week ask me if the pants are pleated or flat front in this listing. There are 3 indications of the pants style. Title, description, and photo.
Hickey Freeman Suit Wool Loro Piana 120s 42R 36/31 Dark Gray Pleated Cuffed EUC

Once you get a few more feedbacks in front of them, no one will even notice them. Just in case someone were to see them in the future, I would do a feedback response, reminding buyers to be sure to check the measurements provided in the listing.

It is strange that the HF was tagged Large at that measured size. That would be big enough for me. I wonder how big a XL would be. Sweet coat though! Surprised it didn't go for a lot more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Smith

I wouldn't worry about it. It is positive feedback. In a week it will be buried and nobody will read it again.

I agree with all of that. I received one myself and thought it was a bit silly as well. Especially since I received no messages from the buyer and would have happily refunded him. I've toyed with the idea of leaving tagged sizes off entirely and just listing measurements. At least try it on a couple of items and see what happens. If there is no size listed, you're losing an audience but you're also forcing buyers to check their own measurements.

More likely, it will just end with a flood of messages asking me what size it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken P

Very helpful post! Big fan of the background and may consider it. As an idea (I'm no expert), if the frames lacked cross beams, and you used moslin and lit behind the background, your lighting could be drastically improved. As this would work as a light tent.

Thanks! I added the cross beam to the longer side of it, so it's only on half. You're most likely right about the lighting and it's something I will try. The problem is that I take most of my photos in a corner that wouldn't allow the space for lighting from behind. I'd need to be especially careful since it could easily catch fire (I'd imagine) if I were to allow the light to get to close. I'm going to mess around with it this weekend and see if I can get some better results.
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Originally Posted by Stewie

Sold a pair of running shoes to a buyer in Italy...so what do I need to do with shipping it?

Don't.

While you may get away with it 9 times out of 10, it is against the law.

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Originally Posted by HansderHund

I'd need to be especially careful since it could easily catch fire (I'd imagine) if I were to allow the light to get to close.

now THAT would be a photograph

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Originally Posted by concealed

now THAT would be a photograph

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