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I had one guy send me a offer of less than 50% the listed price. I wrote a nice reply and sent back a counter offer. He countered with a counter offer that was the same initial offer. Offered the same counter offer to him again, and again, he came back with the initial offer. I declined and he finally got the hint.

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Originally Posted by Testo View Post
 

I had one guy send me a offer of less than 50% the listed price. I wrote a nice reply and sent back a counter offer. He countered with a counter offer that was the same initial offer. Offered the same counter offer to him again, and again, he came back with the initial offer. I declined and he finally got the hint.

 

Crazy people all over the place man :/

 

Dude I would have sent him the SAME counteroffer forever. I'm restless :D


Edited by FlorianQC - 6/16/14 at 4:24am
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Crazy people all over the place man :/

 

Dude I would have sent him the SAME counteroffer forever. I'm restless :D


Why is he crazy.  This is the advise ebay gives on finding bargains

 

"Submit a Best offer ( when sellers have this option )  you will be surprised at what some sellers are actually willing to sell an item for ( I have gotten items for up to 75 % off the asking price ) You can search for items that offer this."

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Why is he crazy.  This is the advise ebay gives on finding bargains

 

"Submit a Best offer ( when sellers have this option )  you will be surprised at what some sellers are actually willing to sell an item for ( I have gotten items for up to 75 % off the asking price ) You can search for items that offer this."

 

150$ for an Ozwald Boateng suit is a douche move. ASking WAY less than 50% of BIN is also crazy...

post #13475 of 18020

On another topic guys...

 

I bought these Ray-Ban sunglasses for 'cheap' recently and I was quite happy... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181422004734?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

So anyway, I received them and those are the FAKEST FAKE Ray-Ban sunglasses ever. It's plastic, sticky tag on the lens saying 'ray-ban' is not original obviously. It looked faded in the pictures but I took a chance.

 

Funniest thing is that I went to 2 opticians this week-end and they laughed at my face SO HARD that it was almost shameful.

 

Your best advice on how to get a refund WITHOUT paying for return shipping? :) This is so much a fake I would be angry to pay for return shipping................

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Originally Posted by FlorianQC View Post
 

On another topic guys...

 

I bought these Ray-Ban sunglasses for 'cheap' recently and I was quite happy... http://www.ebay.ca/itm/181422004734?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

So anyway, I received them and those are the FAKEST FAKE Ray-Ban sunglasses ever. It's plastic, sticky tag on the lens saying 'ray-ban' is not original obviously. It looked faded in the pictures but I took a chance.

 

Funniest thing is that I went to 2 opticians this week-end and they laughed at my face SO HARD that it was almost shameful.

 

Your best advice on how to get a refund WITHOUT paying for return shipping? :) This is so much a fake I would be angry to pay for return shipping................

I am super curious how you think those are fake, if you search for that model it looks exactly like the versions on the Ray-Ban website. The sticker is their polarized lens sticker and looks correct. So aside from 2 dudes laughing at you, why else do you think these are fake? If you do a google search for 'RB3026 Polarized' you will see that exact label on every pair in the photos. It seriously sounds like you have buyers remorse and are looking for a reason to get your money back?

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ASking WAY less than 50% of BIN is also crazy...

Like, say, a $100 offer on a $800 listing? Or $40 on a $100? Or $50 on $150? Those all worked out pretty well for me.
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I am super curious how you think those are fake, if you search for that model it looks exactly like the versions on the Ray-Ban website. The sticker is their polarized lens sticker and looks correct. So aside from 2 dudes laughing at you, why else do you think these are fake? If you do a google search for 'RB3026 Polarized' you will see that exact label on every pair in the photos. It seriously sounds like you have buyers remorse and are looking for a reason to get your money back?

Agreed. If those are fake, they are a very well done fake.

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150$ for an Ozwald Boateng suit is a douche move. ASking WAY less than 50% of BIN is also crazy...

Some people also have insane bin like fantasy levels

So it doesn't hurt to ask!
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150$ for an Ozwald Boateng suit is a douche move. ASking WAY less than 50% of BIN is also crazy...

If you consider that a douchey offer, you might want to stop offering BIN OBO. Realistically, $150 for a used suit isn't a terrible offer, regardless of the asking price. The buyer can't see the suit in person and you have a negative feedback saying that a jacket was in way worse condition than you described. (not saying it actually was or wasn't, but the buyer sees that and assumes it's true)

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If you consider that a douchey offer, you might want to stop offering BIN OBO. Realistically, $150 for a used suit isn't a terrible offer, regardless of the asking price. The buyer can't see the suit in person and you have a negative feedback saying that a jacket was in way worse condition than you described. (not saying it actually was or wasn't, but the buyer sees that and assumes it's true)

yeah that's a case in progress actually. I have to wait for eBay to rule the case :/ To avoid future problems with BINOBO I just set auto-refusals. Never used that before


Edited by FlorianQC - 6/16/14 at 8:44am
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150$ for an Ozwald Boateng suit is a douche move. ASking WAY less than 50% of BIN is also crazy...

I don't see lowball offers as a "douche move." Some sellers accept some pretty crazy low offers. Not most of the time, but it happens, and you never know unless you ask. It takes 15 seconds of a seller's time to decline an offer - or zero seconds if they have an auto-decline.

A "douche move" is sending a lowball offer and then getting mad when it's declined. Like this would-be Boateng buyer did.
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The problem with BINOBO is that 95% of the time as a buyer, if I make my first offer what I'm actually realistically wanting to pay, you're going to counter higher and I'm out...so I have to come in lower to try to end up where I want to be.  I have had very few BINOBO were they took what I offered on the first try, human nature is to counter because we all want to win the negotiation.  I wouldn't have considered it a douche move, counter @ 400 and see what he comes back with, who knows his second offer could have been 300.

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Originally Posted by Shoeluv View Post
 

I am super curious how you think those are fake, if you search for that model it looks exactly like the versions on the Ray-Ban website. The sticker is their polarized lens sticker and looks correct. So aside from 2 dudes laughing at you, why else do you think these are fake? If you do a google search for 'RB3026 Polarized' you will see that exact label on every pair in the photos. It seriously sounds like you have buyers remorse and are looking for a reason to get your money back?

 

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Agreed. If those are fake, they are a very well done fake.

 

This is actually an AWESOME fake and it looks incredible on the photos. That's where the guy caught me actually.

 

So yeah maybe my story wasn't well described :

 

I went to see 2 opticians. One is my local Costco and the other is Farhat which is a local/Quebec store chain (anyway). They sell the RB3026 model so I was able to compare them, I don't really mind if the optician laughed at me because he's a professional and he knows his shit. I just wanted to see for myself ^^

 

I bought this pair because it's 62mm and not 58mm like 95% on what you see in stores generally. So with the pair I have, the size is all fucked up (those are the same size than RB 3025, which is 58mm) and the glasses temple are made in plastic and note in metal. Another thing gave it away, there is a problem with one the welding on the left side of the right lens (you can see it actually on photo 10/11 on the eBay listing). It is plastic that hasn't been properly 'melted'. Metal would never do that.

 

Anyway I tried the RB3026 and those are totally different. First of all, the frame is metallic and obviously it feels metallic. I can't make you guys sense metal through SF hehe. I honestly considered keeping those because it was cheap but the size is fucked up. But it's the best fake I've ever seen (and I've seen plenty on flea markets).

 

The worst is actually the sticker. You can't really see it on the eBay listing but the sticker is faded/damaged. It is an actual sticker (they had the same at the stores) but it's from a real pair. It has been resticked. The box is not displayed but it is also damaged (well beyond mere transportation problems). The guy at Farhat had to admit it was a pretty good scam! Apart from the lenses/temples being plastic instead of glass/metal, he showed me the 'ultimate' difference : 'POLARIZED' not being written on the temple, like it should be... That's the only photo that wasn't included in my listing... I feel kinda dumb now :X


Edited by FlorianQC - 6/16/14 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by Tweets View Post
 

The problem with BINOBO is that 95% of the time as a buyer, if I make my first offer what I'm actually realistically wanting to pay, you're going to counter higher and I'm out...so I have to come in lower to try to end up where I want to be.  I have had very few BINOBO were they took what I offered on the first try, human nature is to counter because we all want to win the negotiation.  I wouldn't have considered it a douche move, counter @ 400 and see what he comes back with, who knows his second offer could have been 300.

 

 

It makes sense but I just looked at recently closed auctions for OB suits and sticked a similar price just to see if people were interested. OB is a pretty rare find!

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I don't see lowball offers as a "douche move." Some sellers accept some pretty crazy low offers. Not most of the time, but it happens, and you never know unless you ask. It takes 15 seconds of a seller's time to decline an offer - or zero seconds if they have an auto-decline.

A "douche move" is sending a lowball offer and then getting mad when it's declined. Like this would-be Boateng buyer did.

 

Yeah it looked like he was okay getting an 'old suit' for 150$. Anyway I did a polite/funny response, there's no need for making the guy even more angry..

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