Non-Rule "Rules"



DocHolliday said:

I don't see a huge distinction between the well-accepted gray herringbone and gray whipcord. Both present in similar fashion, with a little visual interest to signal they're not suiting.

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There is a massive visual difference between a Harris tweed herringbone and whipcord. A little micro herringbone, sure, but that should never be an odd jacket either. Doc. when you go off the rails you really do it up Fugitive style.

TM, if you have a warm weather blazer, get one for cool weather. Or, if yours is heavy, get a light one.

1) No tie unless I am wearing a suit and even then maybe 2-3 times/year (usually a wool tie).
2) Always leave two buttons unbutonned and no undershirt.
3) Shirts should be plain white with maybe a few blue and white/blue stripped ones.
4) I don't bother matching leathers on watches (can do brown watchstrap + black shoes etc.)
5) Jeans=boots, Slacks=shoes
6) always a square, 99% chances it is white and shoved in with no specific folding in mind.
7) Button downs in oxford weight and small, regular collars for lighter fabrics
8) I may never wear formal looking outfits (say businessy) the days I shave
9) No belt with navy suits (don't ask)
10) Black goes with navy
11) No spread collars or loafers ever
12) Socks should not be flashy in any way



Thomas said:

Well, said jacket was also a 43L, these days I run more to 38L or so - and it has no place in my closet any longer. And I wish I'd known about No Grey Odd Jackets earlier because there's another one in my closet that I never ever wear. (its purchase predates joining SF, I wear it just to remind myself to not buy any more grey jackets)
As for fit pics, I don't think I've ever sat still for a fit pic, but if you do some digging elsewhere you may see me resplendent in charcoal rope-stripe or glen plaid DB (no jet ski).

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hmmmm, ill keep an eye out. still, try a fit pic. just for me, babi.

whnay. said:

Coats like the above have an almost uncanny way of washing everything out.

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if it can totally wash out my face, that would be awesome.

DocHolliday said:

I like gray odd jackets in non-suiting cloths, such as whipcord. Mid-gray can look great with khakis and makes for ideal casual wear -- toss it on and go. But I agree it's a later addition to a wardrobe.

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i was hoping for that. and mine is mig gray herringbone. but still, it seems to non casual in structure for me to use it with khakis. maybe ill post a pic of it here later for opinions.



in stitches said:

i have no white or cram dress pants. not my thing. mid gray it is. thank you.
44R. FTR, i am gonna keep it and wear it. i do like it, despite my newfound knowledge. the question is only how long for.

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OIC



Manton said:

There is a massive visual difference between a Harris tweed herringbone and whipcord. A little micro herringbone, sure, but that should never be an odd jacket either. Doc. when you go off the rails you really do it up Fugitive style.

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We've disagreed about this one since the Dark Ages. But you can blame my grandfather -- I snagged his lightish gray twill sportcoats from the '60s. Soft shoulders, narrowish lapels, single vent. Hot hot hot. Great with khakis and a navy or black knit tie. Had I not found these, I'd probably agree with you.

As it stands, I may be the owner of the only great solid gray sportcoats in the world, much as I'm the owner of the world's best blazer.

The dreaded gray sportcoat and charcoal trousers, all in one place:

Oh my god, that is terrible.



DocHolliday said:

As it stands, I may be the owner of the only great solid gray sportcoats in the world, much as I'm the owner of the world's best blazer.

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1. any chance of pics?

2. are they in fact one and the same?

Whenever I see trousers and a jacket that are that close in shade I can't help but feel that they are trying to make it look like a suit.

Are gray odd jackets another (very unfortunate) English conceit? Like spelling words with extra letters?



oldog/oldtrix said:

The dreaded gray sportcoat and charcoal trousers, all in one place:

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I have that fabric in a suit. DB, in fact. Avery Lucas - an AA 1930's cut. Craaazy.



mafoofan said:

Are grey odd jackets another (very unfortunate) English conceit? Like spelling words correctly?

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FTFY, Foo.

No, they are not. Back when I was a school kid in the early/mid 80s, there was a particular boxy grey herringbone SC sold by M and S (I think) that for a while seemed near-universal among my peers at school, and some of their fathers, as a sort of boring odd jacket. Probably because it met the middle-class requirements of being solidly-made, good value and inoffensive. But grey has never been popular here. I am fond of my grey tweed SC with a 2.5" x 3" bold blue overstripe in part becauuse no-one wears grey SCs, especially not slightly loud ones.

EDIT: Whoops, wrong thread

I have a grey odd jacket. Posted a detail pic of it in the whnay thread earlier today. It's hard to pair with things, but made up in an unbelievably comfortable cloth. Light grey, almost silver-ish flannel trousers work best. Here it is paired somewhat less successfully with dark grey trousers and a tie in similar tones:



mafoofan said:

Oh my god, that is terrible.

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From top to bottom and side to side.