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post #496 of 769
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Nah double monks can be nice.
Just cos some bloggers are wearing them in a terrible way doesn't mean you can't wear them well.

im in this camp. i think a lot of them look really nice when worn well.

manton, and others, what would you sat to wear them with? DB suits?
post #497 of 769
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

others, what would you sat to wear them with? DB suits?

Definitely not.

They're like derbies. sportcoat + pants. No suits.
post #498 of 769
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

manton, and others, what would you sat to wear them with? DB suits?

 

You can wear them with anything really. Doesn't have to be just DB suits.

 

EDIT: In response to Hendrix above, I think they're totally fine with suits. Sometimes people on SF just way overthink this stuff.

post #499 of 769
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

EDIT: In response to Hendrix above, I think they're totally fine with suits. Sometimes people on SF just way overthink this stuff.

I should clarify my agreement with hendrix - I think they're ok with suits. But dub monks + DB suit is too much dandification/#menswear for one outfit in today's world IMHO. For me at least.
post #500 of 769
interesting. i could swear i saw someone here with cred say srs bsns dub monks is good with srs bsns of DBs. maybe i am misremembering.
post #501 of 769
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

interesting. i could swear i saw someone here with cred say srs bsns dub monks is good with srs bsns of DBs. maybe i am misremembering.

Everybody has different connotations for different items. Which is part of how we end up with different rules for dress. I don't know enough about the history of footwear to know how long double monks have been around, the ebbs and flows of their popularity, and with what activities/social groups they have been associated with over the years. All I know is, for me personally: 1) I can't remember a time when I have actually seen a real person in front of me wearing double monks 2) Since I have joined SF a little over a year ago, they are fetishized frequently 3) they're all over the #menswear in my Tumblr and in Pitti pictures 4) I see them referred to as "dub monks" more than "double monks". So for me, they are as #menswear as BDs with the collar unbuttoned.
post #502 of 769
so, you have a guilt by association thing going on. sucks for you. smile.gif

but seriously, i do get what you are saying, i just think of it differently. in my mind, as opposed to, "look at me," both DBs and "dub monks" mean, "dont mess with me, im going to work and i am not to be trifled with." so they go hand in hand for me in a good way.
post #503 of 769
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

interesting. i could swear i saw someone here with cred say srs bsns dub monks is good with srs bsns of DBs. maybe i am misremembering.

there are two camps and i'm still in the one that they should be avoided at any cost. horses for courses?
post #504 of 769
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

Throw me in the "EG trumps other RTW brands" camp. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sure, there are exceptions (like the Phillip II, which is amazing), but the majority of RTW designs from places like Lobb, G&G etc. are far too stylized.

Would love to learn more about Massaro. I always thought of them as a maker of women's couture shoes.

interesting. i mean you have a very selective - if not the most selective shoe rotation on sf - and you hold them in such high praise?
post #505 of 769
My objection to the dubs is not based on #menswear sprezzgasms or their (un?)suitability with suits. I just think they look clunky. Regular monks are great.
post #506 of 769
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

My objection to the dubs is not based on #menswear sprezzgasms or their (un?)suitability with suits. I just think they look clunky. Regular monks are great.

The clunkiness is what gets to me as well

Double monks are among a small handful of items that I really like in theory, but not in practice (silk squares is another; cardigans a third)

Several times I have walked into JLP / EG intent on picking up a pair of Westminsters or William IIs - only to pull out when I actually see them in person / see them on my feet.

An interesting mirror-image for me was the EG Dover - which I never really liked in pictures (heathen, I know), but when I got a pair on me I bought immediately

As an aside, this is nothing against monks, per se. I really like both the Oundle and the Jermyn II

R-O-T
post #507 of 769
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Originally Posted by R.O. Thornhill View Post

The clunkiness is what gets to me as well

imo, the cap toe on most models adds to it.
post #508 of 769
I have had to think about how I dress to come up with some habits:

no print ties
no contrast collar dress shirts
cuffs and pleats on all tailored trousers (uncuffed for jeans, summer linens etc)
no squares at work (will occasionally wear one otherwise)
braces with suits (except for one old MTM that takes a belt)
undershirt under dress shirt (always, always, always, the heat be damned)
usually one plain item (no pattern) each day, and often several
plain tie with patterned shirt, though I don't have a great many of the latter (whether check or stripe)
no monograms
no belt with waistcoat (you will say that this is a real rule, but I see it broken with extreme prejudice everywhere -- viz. Patrick Jane on The Mentalist)
BD under coat without tie (something in me hates a flapping collar)
no fun socks
no ball-caps with tailored coat
no cowboy boots or hats (ffffuuuu.gif Calgary!)
post #509 of 769
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Originally Posted by Eustace Tilley View Post

Throw me in the "EG trumps other RTW brands" camp. Sure, there are exceptions (like the Phillip II, which is amazing), but the majority of RTW designs from places like Lobb, G&G etc. are far too stylized.

Would love to learn more about Massaro. I always thought of them as a maker of women's couture shoes.

They go both ways mwink[1].gif

only a few rtw styles; Opera, Vendome and Ginza are nice. The monk isn't bad.

http://massaro.fr/en/mosaique-le-pret-a-chausser-masculin.php

Some creative bespoke examples.

http://bespoke.exblog.jp/tags/MASSARO/

Large variety of bespoke samples on display
post #510 of 769
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

+1. This was the straw that broke the camel's back and finally convince me to absolutely never get any (sorry too lazy to download and repost pics right now):
http://ivorytowerstyle.tumblr.com/post/18517016167/howtotalktogirlsatparties-nick-mcclish

I like the 3"x5" index card in his breast pocket.
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